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09-17-2007, 09:09 AM
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Those f*ing minraises. JJ hand. Too passive?
Villain had just lost a pot against me. He seemed quite bad. Since I had position I thought calling PF was ok... I guess there are a lot of lines in this hand. How would your standard line look and why?
Blinds: $0.50/$1 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $111.75 UTG+1: $142.30 Superhero: $112.99 Button: $89.50 SB: $172.11 BB: $103.80 Pre-flop: (6 players) Superhero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Superhero raises to $4</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $6.5</font>, BB folds, Superhero calls. Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($14.5, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets $9</font>, Superhero calls. Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($32.5, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets $18.95</font>, Superhero calls. River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($70.4, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets $61.44</font>, Superhero folds. Uncalled bets: $61.44 returned to SB. Results: Final pot: $70.4 
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#4
09-17-2007, 09:32 AM
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Re: Those f*ing minraises. JJ hand. Too passive?
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Fold Turn If you call Turn, call River. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this.
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#5
09-17-2007, 09:39 AM
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Re: Those f*ing minraises. JJ hand. Too passive?
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[ QUOTE ] Fold Turn If you call Turn, call River. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I had planned on calling the river, but then I bailed when he made such a big bet. Thinking "I always fall for this fishy minraise trap..." He showed 45s, and I thought "I knew it..." [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] Anyway, do you think my line is OK?
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#6
09-17-2007, 09:39 AM
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Re: Those f*ing minraises. JJ hand. Too passive?
I fold on turn. Cant see him bluffing on 2 streets on such a dry board. If I decide I have best hand I raise turn and call ai, but thats only vs. maniacs and uberagro. Vs tipical +/- bad player I muck turn here a lot.
Just a thoght... make it 30$ on flop and fold to a push/raise.
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#7
09-17-2007, 09:43 AM
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Re: Those f*ing minraises. JJ hand. Too passive?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Fold Turn If you call Turn, call River. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I had planned on calling the river, but then I bailed when he made such a big bet. Thinking "I always fall for this fishy minraise trap..." He showed 45s, and I thought "I knew it..." [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] Anyway, do you think my line is OK? [/ QUOTE ] Your line is fine if you fold the turn or call the river. Thing is the worst mistake you can make in these spots is calling to the river and then fold. If he has air he'll bet all the way very, very often. This line gives him maximum pay off when it's a bluff.
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#8
09-17-2007, 09:45 AM
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Re: Those f*ing minraises. JJ hand. Too passive?
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Just a thoght... make it 30$ on flop and fold to a push/raise. [/ QUOTE ] I don't like turning our hand into a bluff here. Either we put him on a bluff a high enough percentage to call down, or we just peel the flop and then give up. Raising the flop will lose too much when behind while not extracting anything when ahead. Edit: a flop raise is still probably better than the line OP took, both are bad though.
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#10
09-17-2007, 10:00 AM
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Re: Those f*ing minraises. JJ hand. Too passive?
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He had AQ man players at those levels love to make these weak plays with aq aj 77-jj. please dont flop do u not see the Q? [/ QUOTE ] I've already said what he had...
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