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Old 09-17-2007, 05:12 AM
ogdundar ogdundar is offline
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Default Re: 400NL | AA c/r\'ed on draw flop

I like a flop 3-bet, mind telling me who villain is? I play alot on IPoker 2/4, might have some specific reads...
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:15 AM
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Default Re: 400NL | AA c/r\'ed on draw flop

i dont like calling this flop at all. 3bet or shove.
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:19 AM
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Default Re: 400NL | AA c/r\'ed on draw flop

i also think that if he's a thinking player, he'll notice that you'll 3 bet on flop more often with top pair top kicker+ type of hands.
So if you shove on flop, he'll call more often with made hands(worse than yours) since the percentage of someone pushing with a semibluff on that flop is high enough.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:06 AM
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Default Re: 400NL | AA c/r\'ed on draw flop

He has you in bad shape, with this flop i like the check behind with AA , with very thinking players heres why.

If villian cold calls with 99 1010 hes going to check raise you all day because he knows you probably have a big overpair and if you have AK or AQs he wasnt winning that big of a pot anyways just fold. The draw board just puts you in a spot where you start to believe he is on some sort of drawing hand but really he is not.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:24 AM
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Default Re: 400NL | AA c/r\'ed on draw flop

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3 bet flop like always. You can either shove or 3 bet sort of small to make him think he has FE and shove a draw himself, depends on the kind of player you percieve him (and vice versa).

You can call and get it in on most turns too, but I'd play draws pretty fast here so 3 betting fits my general style better.

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Old 09-17-2007, 07:31 AM
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Default Re: 400NL | AA c/r\'ed on draw flop

So we 3bet so we get 2 to 1 on turn and call when he pushes turn even when we are behind nice or checks to us and we have about 1 pot size bet left..
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:36 AM
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Default Re: 400NL | AA c/r\'ed on draw flop

Does no-one either raise more or limp pf?
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:44 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: 400NL | AA c/r\'ed on draw flop

I just shove. If the flop had been Tc5c2h I would just call and get it in on a non club turn.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:51 AM
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Default Re: 400NL | AA c/r\'ed on draw flop

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I just shove. If the flop had been Tc5c2h I would just call and get it in on a non club turn.

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Wouldnt it be a better spot to 3 bet it here? I see why your doing this though 2, no 89 98 108 79 flops, so why not just flat call and get it in on turn, but when a Q K etc comes off on turn it puts us in a tough spot, why not 3 bet more often with only 1 card between 7-10, I do realize sometimes u just have to get it in there with aces or Kings?

The reason why i say 3 bet here is because we are more likely ahead. I think players 3 bet for the wrong reason when they are behind like a flop of this texture.
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:08 AM
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Default Re: 400NL | AA c/r\'ed on draw flop

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He has you in bad shape, with this flop i like the check behind with AA , with very thinking players heres why.

If villian cold calls with 99 1010 hes going to check raise you all day because he knows you probably have a big overpair and if you have AK or AQs he wasnt winning that big of a pot anyways just fold. The draw board just puts you in a spot where you start to believe he is on some sort of drawing hand but really he is not.

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lol, freeucm will never get old
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