Feel like I made a mess of this one.... 50nl JJJ

[terp]

what the hell? bet the turn and call a shove asap

I bet around 12.5$ on turn for value and fold to a shove.

Edit: Just noticed it was a 3bet (yuck, at min 3bet pot)

[icheckcallu]

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Turn: ($17.75) T (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

this is atrocious

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The only thing which is atrocious is the quality of your post. Justify your remarks or don't post at all.

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if you dont know why calling 2.5 on a (17+)huge pot with a set is bad you should quit flaming everyone!

[icheckcallu]

I will tell u why check calling turn is BAD from your villain description you said he was a loose passive. I bet this turn ALWAYS. Villain calls with worst hand all the time. I will stack off if he has QQ


Your mission here is to 3/4 the turn to set up for the river shove not check call his stupid bet.

[icheckcallu]

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i like betting the turn, he sucks - he's calling with a lot that you slay there.

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what specific hands though? remember he min 3bet me preflop.

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you kill AA KK any TT which all in his range. Since hes a loose passive call senter preflop then I am betting this turn ALWAYS. I gladly stack off if he shows atraight! Stop being results oriented

[Genz]

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I think his min 3-betting range is a lot wider than just TT+,AQo/s+

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Yeah idk. Ive been thinking about this a little lately, when really passive players just mash the "raise" button.

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Despite the result, I'd like to add, that he isn't "really passive". Someone who plays 50+% of his hands and gets his AF total to 1.5 isn't playing passively.
I am tempted to c/r this flop a lot. It was my first thought. The turn bet is so weak that I like raising it up. Obv. the same people who insta-check when they make a big hand bet smallish in the same spot.
On the river I can't let go of my set, although I pretty much hate my hand. I'm not sure if he would play AA, KK, (QQ; edit: fugetabout QQ, my mistake) the same way on the river. If he had one of those hands, he would have been scared already on the turn, hence the small bet. So he probably wouldn't bet the river like this. But this is results oriented thinking. I would need further proof that he overvalues pairs to form an opinion if he would quasi-slowplay a big pair the same way.

[deadmanspoker]

Id bet the pot on the flop.

Thats a very wet board, i want to build the pot and make them pay to draw.

[corsakh]

B/f is not an option on the turn for obvious reasons. And betting is likely to result in villain shoving on either turn or river. Equity is really bad against his all in range here. So pot control looks good.