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Old 09-16-2007, 05:29 PM
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Default Difficult flop decision

No IQ poker Umzinto 1/2, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | [color=#C00000]saw showdown</font>

Button Button ($107.05)
SB ($199.90)
BB [color=#C00000]BB ($55.13)</font>
UTG ($46.16)
UTG+1 Hero ($107)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T 8
1 fold, Hero raises to 4, Button calls 4, 1 fold, BB calls 2.

Flop (13) 8 5 5
BB checks, Hero bets 2, Button raises to 4, BB raises to 6, Hero?

Button: 21/11/2
BB: 27/9/1.5

Button are multitabling 5+ tables and plays a pretty straightforward game without making any significant moves.
BB have tried to steal pots from me heads up when he figure i,ve missed the flop and are more difficult to read than Button.

Im trying to steal the blinds. The cold call from button worries me but the flop doesnt look to bad. The raise from button may represent pp 22-44 or 66-77 or he figure i missed the flop and try to steal the pot. I dont find 10 10- AA likely, cause im sure he would 3 bet preflop then. The 3 bet from bb worries me a lot though. Weve played a lot of hands all 3 players and i find it strange if he try to bluff here after my bet and a strong raise from button. Im also pretty sure either of the players have the 5, then i think i would face a slow play from both players here. How would you guys proceed here?
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Old 09-16-2007, 05:38 PM
NinaWilliams NinaWilliams is offline
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Default Re: Difficult flop decision

Easy fold. If button doesnt have you beat, BB certainly does. Also, fold pf.
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Old 09-16-2007, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: Difficult flop decision

You could be beaten not only by a 5 but a better ten. Facing the 3bet, definitely fold. Even though it is 5 handed I would still fold preflop.
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:36 PM
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Yes i agree, and i did indeed fold flop here. Regarding my pre flop raise, i did that based on bb fold % (67%). Still a clear fold? How would your line furter be if you had K 8 instead of my original holding?
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: Difficult flop decision

Nina, hero is in btn. I think T8o is ok to open if the blinds are too tight.
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:10 PM
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Nina, hero is in btn. I think T8o is ok to open if the blinds are too tight.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T 8
1 fold, Hero raises to 4,Button calls 4, 1 fold, BB calls 2.

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ORLY
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:53 PM
Gurravasa Gurravasa is offline
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Default Re: Difficult flop decision

t 8 is way too weak to open from utg1 with.
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:59 PM
Wolfram Wolfram is offline
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lol, I misread, nevermind
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:02 PM
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t 8 is way too weak to open from utg1 with.

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it's the cutoff. never trust the labels posted. they are often incorrect. i'd raise this with two 20% players behind me.
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:40 PM
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t 8 is way too weak to open from utg1 with.

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it's the cutoff. never trust the labels posted. they are often incorrect. i'd raise this with two 20% players behind me.

[/ QUOTE ] oh I see. But it's still too weak imo...
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