When a calling station goes all-in on the river.

[Newman30]

Villian is a typical calling station, his stats is (70/2/0.3 – great stats! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] ). He is rather aggressive on the river though, as many fish are - totally passive elsewhere, all of a sudden aggressive on the river, especially on scarecards.

How should I play this hand? I’m am loose on the button (as you can see). This earns me money in the long run. Of course I would not valuebet my ace with 6 kicker against many players, but in this case where he plays 7 out of 10 hands and calls a lot, I am ahead of his range.

The 8 comes on the river and he is directly all-in. This would of course be impossible to call against tighter players, who are not as aggressive on the river. I choose to fold it because the weakness of my hand. But you could definetly argument for calling this kind of player. I hate these float flop –float turn -all-in on river situations.

How would you determine when and how much to call this kind of bet with a less than premium hand? Actually this guy has infinite AF on the river, but only over 70 hands, so it does not say a lot. But there are many fish who gets very very aggressive all of a sudden on the river, and sometimes you just have to call them down, with less than premium hands. I would say the most important factor is how often do they do this? Next of course is the strength of your hand. Next – which cards are they bluffing on. They usually love to bluff on aces and flush cards. (here you can sometimes successfully make a blockingbet if you are oop).

Everest Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00/$2.00 (HH Converter by Kreatief)

Button ($213.45) (Hero)
SB ($198.65)
BB ($224.95)
MP2 ($297.95)
MP3 ($246.80)
CO ($289.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP2 calls All-In $2.00, [color=#666666]2 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises All-In $9.00</font>, [color=#666666]2 folds</font>, MP2 calls All-In $7.00,

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( $21 )
MP2 checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $13.00</font>, MP2 calls All-In $13.00,

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( $47 )
MP2 checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $25.00</font>, MP2 calls All-In $25.00,

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( $97 )
[color=#CC3333]MP2 bets $97.00</font>, [color=#666666]1 folds</font>,

Results:
Outcome: MP2 wins $94.00

[deaders]

They arent always just bluffing at scarecards, 70/2's just get there every single [censored] time they call down with any draw. Rivers definitely a fold.

[spivey]

This is a super clear fold.

[runhot]

check turn

[tubasteve]

how is there any doubt that you are losing

[Newman30]

I can see that I didn't really formulate this post to well, compared to what I wanted to discuss.

It's more a general question. I hate these float flop –float turn -all-in on river situations (with fish that are only aggressive on the river). Sometimes you do need to call with less than premium hands. Which factors do you use to determine when to call (other than gutfeel ;-) )?

(I know I shouldn't be calling the hand above)

[Shizzle12345]

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check turn

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if he really lives his name (the calling station) this is burning money.

[keikiwai]

you put in all the money while ahead if you folded the river

[Newman30]

I don't quite understand the last few posts, partly maybe due to english is not my native language.

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if he really lives his name (the calling station) this is burning money.


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Do you mean I am burning my money or what? and in that case could you elaborate a bit on that.

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you put in all the money while ahead if you folded the river


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I don't understand that, could you explain it in another way or elaborate on it.

ty for the input by the way.

[pineapple888]

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I can see that I didn't really formulate this post to well, compared to what I wanted to discuss.

It's more a general question. I hate these float flop –float turn -all-in on river situations (with fish that are only aggressive on the river). Sometimes you do need to call with less than premium hands. Which factors do you use to determine when to call (other than gutfeel ;-) )?

(I know I shouldn't be calling the hand above)

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1.) Stats
2.) Spidey-sense
3.) Look into his soul
4.) Hole card viewer