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Old 09-16-2007, 08:48 AM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default FT200 shpanko puts me to a decision for all my chips

I'm rusty and haven't played enough. So it's like five minutes in the session and this happens.

6-handed, 1/2.

shpanko raises utg to 7, 1 folds, I reraise to 22 with QQ in the co, 3 folds, shpanko thinks for two seconds and moves arrrr innnn.


We don't have a history of out-leveling each other or anything. We know who the other guy is and have seen each others posts plenty. I know he respects my game, but we also don't softplay each other.



Fold like a bitch or censore you call?
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: FT200 shpanko puts me to a decision for all my chips

why would you consider folding?
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:51 AM
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Default Re: FT200 shpanko puts me to a decision for all my chips

he opens UTG, gets 3bet by a nit and then 4bet shoves. you are flipping AT BEST
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:55 AM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: FT200 shpanko puts me to a decision for all my chips

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he opens UTG, gets 3bet by a nit and then 4bet shoves. you are flipping AT BEST

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1. I'm not really a nit. I was 19/15 last week.

2. Given your advice, why wouldn't he 4-bet shove ATs?
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:56 AM
Unknown Soldier Unknown Soldier is offline
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Default Re: FT200 shpanko puts me to a decision for all my chips

wow, call

id looooove tags to fold QQ to me here
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:01 AM
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Default Re: FT200 shpanko puts me to a decision for all my chips

Wow and when he wakes up with KK and AA and you show jk.
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:06 AM
Valerio Valerio is offline
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Default Re: FT200 shpanko puts me to a decision for all my chips

I think a fold is in order.
Sure, it's theoretically exploitable, but since you don't have much history, I would put a solid player on AK, KK, AA the first time he does this.
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:13 AM
Fletcher19 Fletcher19 is offline
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Default Re: FT200 shpanko puts me to a decision for all my chips

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he opens UTG, gets 3bet by a nit and then 4bet shoves. you are flipping AT BEST

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1. I'm not really a nit. I was 19/15 last week.

2. Given your advice, why wouldn't he 4-bet shove ATs?

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1. assuming he uses a hud then he probably still has your stats around 16/12

2. this is UTG vs CO not BTN vs BB

ok it's possible that he is doing this with a suited ace but only if you've been 3betting him a ton which is unlikely and he is surely never doing this JJ
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Old 09-16-2007, 01:49 PM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default Re: FT200 shpanko puts me to a decision for all my chips

You hadn't been three-betting me much this session (if at all) and I do have you running something like 17/13, so when you 3-bet my UTG open I put you on a pretty tight range.

Without too much history my range for shoving is KK+/AK, JJ and QQ I will usually just call.
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Old 09-16-2007, 01:57 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: FT200 shpanko puts me to a decision for all my chips

Nielsio - consider calling preflop with your image and how he is going to react to your 3bet.
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