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Old 09-15-2007, 02:15 AM
DirteAA DirteAA is offline
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Default gutshot turned fd, line check

villain is andykay on FTP, i have him at 25/19/2.5 over large sample. we have some history and he really doesn't like to fold any top pair against me. his range includes AT+, TT, and 22 on the flop (once he calls the raise). after he calls the flop i don't see why he would fold the turn, but does anyone shove/bet turn here?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $43.00
BB: $223.85
UTG: $200.00
MP: $163.70
CO: $213.75
Hero (BTN): $270.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $7.00</font>, Hero calls $7.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($17) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $12.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $47.00</font>, CO calls $35.00

Turn: ($111) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: gutshot turned fd, line check

given tha tyou raised the fkop i think i shove here.
dunno if thats good, but its shove or check; theres no middle ground. considering you have K high, i wanna maximize FE so shooooove
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: gutshot turned fd, line check

dont raise this flop:/
as played I I check turn
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: gutshot turned fd, line check

which do you guys think has more fold equity: a shove on the turn as played, or floating the flop then shoving over his double barrel? as played I'm checking.
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:30 AM
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Default Re: gutshot turned fd, line check

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which do you guys think has more fold equity: a shove on the turn as played, or floating the flop then shoving over his double barrel? as played I'm checking.

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the 2nd have more fold equity imo but it s still not a profitable play unless u know the turn will bring a club.
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: gutshot turned fd, line check

What % of vilain s range u do u think would fold to a shove?
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:54 AM
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Default Re: gutshot turned fd, line check

Villain doesn't like to fold any top pair to you.
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Villain's range is 2pr+
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turn blank
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Very little FE

I take a freebie here in position.
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: gutshot turned fd, line check

i'd rather check
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:27 AM
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Default Re: gutshot turned fd, line check

YOUR HAND IS VERY DISGUISED IF YOU HIT EITHER OF YOUR DRAWS ON THE RIVER; AFTER CALLING THIS FLOP HE HAS TO HAVE A PIECE, SO HE'LL EITHER LEAD RIV AND LIKELY CALL A SHOVE WHEN YOU HIT CAUSE HE'S LIKE WTF LOL LIKE U BACKDOORED A FLUSH OR RAISED ME WITH A GUTSHOT, OR IF NOT HE'S DEF PAYING OFF A VB CAUSE YOUR LINE LOOKS LIKE AIR

I GENERALLY DON'T LIKE OVERBETTING BUT THAT'S JUST CAUSE I DON'T REALLY DO IT WITH ANYTHING SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO BALANCE IT WITH, BUT IF YOU WANNA BE LIKE PRAH THEN THIS IS AN OK SPOT TO DO IT SINCE YOU HAVE SEVENTY BILLION OUTS
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:00 AM
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Default Re: gutshot turned fd, line check

no f.e. - free card plz. draws nicely disguised so have good implied odds, esp after you check behind turn.
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