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Old 09-15-2007, 03:51 AM
robsmith82 robsmith82 is offline
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Default $10NL KJo TPGK against surprise river check raise

Am I ok to value bet this river? Do you think I induced a raise by betting so small on the river? Easy call?

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SB: $13.45
BB: $12.10
UTG: $11.05
Hero (CO): $10.25
BTN: $10.55

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain was 32/9/3 over about 50 hands</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.35</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.70</font>, BB calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.15) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, BB calls $1.50

River: ($5.15) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.20</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $9.55</font>,Hero????
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:01 AM
mookboi mookboi is offline
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Default Re: $10NL KJo TPGK against surprise river check raise

River is tough as played. Depends on opponent really. I would fold - looks like he was just itching to CR there.

If you are going to valuebet, make it a real bet. 2/3rds pot or so. That way at least you get good enough value when you are ahead to make up for [censored] spots where you get CR'd like you just did.
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:04 AM
BrunoThePug BrunoThePug is offline
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Default Re: $10NL KJo TPGK against surprise river check raise

Unless villain is sophisticated enough to realize that there might be an opportunity to bluff this river I think you have to assume that against an average $10NL villain you're behind here.

Had you seen villain do anything that would make you think they were capable of this type of play?
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:20 AM
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Default Re: $10NL KJo TPGK against surprise river check raise

I did, in fact call the river. I just couldnt find too many hands that beat me that would play that way. except for a slowplayed monster or he ran into KQ. It was, in fact KTo... villain played weird and must have viewed my little value bet as weakness. Could this be a good strategy sometimes? Bet small on the river for value to make it look weak hoping to induce a raise?
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:28 AM
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Default Re: $10NL KJo TPGK against surprise river check raise

This is not a strategy. Unless you put them on a missed flush draw you shouldnt be betting so small. It actually looks very strong. You were just lucky that the villian was stupid enough to go all in.
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:31 AM
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Default Re: $10NL KJo TPGK against surprise river check raise

Also if you bet that small on the river when ur decent then you will not be maximising your profit, if you bet 2/3 of pot everytime u think your ahead then your going to be getting alot more value out of them....
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: $10NL KJo TPGK against surprise river check raise

I guess I felt a suck bet was the only one that was likely to be called.
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