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Old 09-14-2007, 07:03 PM
wslee00 wslee00 is offline
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Yeah idk. Ive been thinking about this a little lately, when really passive players just mash the "raise" button. I always seem to find that it means a killer hand, I dunno, maybe its because they all came from limit?

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Since I always come in raising, some villains get tired of it and decide to min-3-bet me with some really trash hands like QTo (and one time with A6o). It definitely depends on villain, so it is good to be cautious first time around, but just be aware that if you're aggro pf, people will catch on and start min-3-betting you with some really trash hands.
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Old 09-15-2007, 01:30 AM
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I can't tell you how much I hate the weak bet into big pot bet that's just screaming to get raised because its the nuts. You were right to just call the turn. I know how you feel knowing what the other guy has, but still calling because you hate to fold. Repeat after me. I must go with my reads. I must go with my reads. Feel better? Na, but when you fill up on the river and he bets the pot, you push, and knit calls...it almost makes up for losing these kind of hands.
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:10 AM
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I like leading monsters only into people who I think are capable of raising a donkbet with a worse hand. Here its not the case. He is probably going to cbet small even if he missed the board completely. And honestly, the only thing that missed this flop is TT [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] No doubt he is felting AA, KK, AT, any queen and probably even a jack. If he has AK, he is no doubt calling a c/r since he has a monster draw, two overs and well.. an ace and a king [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] So I definetly go for a c/r, this type of players rarely if ever check a 3bet flop behind. As played turn is the worst card that could hit and I just c/c both streets.
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:11 AM
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Default Re: Feel like I made a mess of this one.... 50nl JJJ

Turn: ($17.75) T (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

this is atrocious
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Old 09-15-2007, 07:16 AM
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Default Re: Feel like I made a mess of this one.... 50nl JJJ

Goddamnit....I've read very little of this thread but:

bet the turn. If you check for some reason you are check raising.



Bet the river. Get all-in....damnit.


No [censored] way river is a fold.


This hand is played so sick IMO. (sick being bad as in not played well.)
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: Feel like I made a mess of this one.... 50nl JJJ

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Turn: ($17.75) T (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

this is atrocious

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The only thing which is atrocious is the quality of your post. Justify your remarks or don't post at all.
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: Feel like I made a mess of this one.... 50nl JJJ

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Turn: ($17.75) T (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

this is atrocious

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The only thing which is atrocious is the quality of your post. Justify your remarks or don't post at all.

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lol amen [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I figure his range is more: JJ+,TcTh,55,AKs,AKo

Since this is the tighest range he could have, we're like 49% equity.

However throw in random donkey hands, the fact AA is heavily weighted(IMO) and we can stack off happily.

Best route? c/r the flop big, shove turn.

He's cbetting tonnes, if he checks he's down to so few outs and we have a 10out redraw and he may check with AA to be fancy anyway.

Thoughts?
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: Feel like I made a mess of this one.... 50nl JJJ

The way thios is played, I think that I would CRAI the turn. I think that you are way ahead here and will get a call.
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:31 PM
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The way you played it, u gotta bet/all in the turn IMO.

I dont like c/rallin as much since it may scare AA big time so the combos that call are more weighted to sets+what beat you.
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:01 AM
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Default Re: Feel like I made a mess of this one.... 50nl JJJ

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I figure his range is more: JJ+,TcTh,55,AKs,AKo

Since this is the tighest range he could have, we're like 49% equity.

However throw in random donkey hands, the fact AA is heavily weighted(IMO) and we can stack off happily.


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