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Old 09-14-2007, 09:11 PM
McMelchior McMelchior is offline
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[I'm unclear as to why your significant other knows how much you have in your bankroll.

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It's always fun to see people's different idea of what a marriage is.

Anyway, here in New York marriage actually entails a legal obligation to mutual financial support (with spousal refusal only accepted by Medicaid), in effect precluding personal financial discretion.

Or in other words - you don't have to ask her if you can play poker, but if your wife wants to know how much you win or lose playing poker the law says you pretty darned much have to tell her.

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Old 09-14-2007, 09:45 PM
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You will 100% be playing with scared money and will pass on +EV situations due to this. Don't play.
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Old 09-14-2007, 10:03 PM
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I'm unclear as to why your significant other knows how much you have in your bankroll. You said that you never tap into family funds to supplement your bankroll, so to my way of thinking, your BR level is not really your SO's concern. I am in a similar poition, except that I take zero funds from my day job to pay for anything (all lunches, spending money, etc comes from poker). My wife just knows that I make enough to cover anything small I want to buy, and she is appreciative of the fact that I do not need to tap my salary for pocket change. I also buy her something nice on holidays and special occassions (all gifts come from poker winnings). Telling your SO about the details of your session results and BR level is a bad practice that is bound to get you in trouble, IMHO. I know that my wife would not understand or be comfortable with the swings in my bankroll.

That being said, if you really want to take a shot at this game, then grind your $1/$2 game until you have built a $5K BR, don't tell your SO your precise BR level, and play the $2/$5 game. If you lose 6 buy-ins, then drop back down to your $1/$2 game, rinse & repeat.

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This sounds like good advice. This game runs weekly, and I'm pretty sure that I can get an invitation whenever I like. It probably makes more sense to wait until I'm properly rolled for it.

FWIW, I'm pretty open about my poker winnings with my wife because it earns me a lot of leeway. We've got two kids and the usual demands on our free time that go along with them, but my wife still lets me head out for nights on my own to play in AC. Heck, last week, she let me go to Las Vegas for a week-long poker vacation by myself.

So, in return for those kind of perks, I always make sure she knows about how much my bankroll is and generally how I did in any given session, if she asks. Also, if I have good night in the casinos, I give her some of the winnings and even give the kids a little. It makes everyone happy.

It may sound silly to do these things, but you can't imagine how much goodwill it gets me. There have even been times on a Saturday night when, if we're not doing anything, my wife will actually suggest that I hit AC for some cards. I don't think it would be this way if poker were some hobby of mine that she knew nothing about.
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:30 AM
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:38 PM
Wongboy Wongboy is offline
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Default Re: Would you try this game?

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It's always fun to see people's different idea of what a marriage is.

Anyway, here in New York marriage actually entails a legal obligation to mutual financial support (with spousal refusal only accepted by Medicaid), in effect precluding personal financial discretion.

Or in other words - you don't have to ask her if you can play poker, but if your wife wants to know how much you win or lose playing poker the law says you pretty darned much have to tell her.

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So if you ask your wife how much she spent on that new dress and she fibs a bit, she has broken the law? That sounds a bit overdramatic to me.

Relationships are all a bit different, and I am happy for you if you are in a good relationship that includes complete and total honesty about every dollar that is spent. Personally, I have been happily married for 12 years. My wife and I both have discretionary money that we have freedom to use however we wish. It works fine for us.

To the OP's point, I find that non-poker players have a hard time understanding that a winning player can still have some pretty nasty downswings. IMHO, it is usually better to avoid this discussion if possible.
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:24 PM
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To the OP's point, I find that non-poker players have a hard time understanding that a winning player can still have some pretty nasty downswings.

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This is true, but it has led me to the opposite conclusion that you've reached. I've had a fair amount of success at this hobby... so much so that when I hit a downswing, my wife questioned whether I was actually losing, or if I was pretending to lose to avoid sharing some of my wins as I often do.

I laughed at that suggestion, and I just told her that she's free to check the bankroll anytime she wants. She never has, but I think that is in part because the my bankroll is not some big secret. Knowing that she has to right to check anytime she wants gives my wife the security to feel that she doesn't have to.

I can see where other arrangements would be reasonable and work, too, but this one works for us.
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:32 PM
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I wouldn't play in a game if I wasn't comfortable with dropping three buy-ins at it. (That's my personal limit, because, from experience, I find that when I get down three buy-in's I tend to get off my game). I never show up to a game with less than three buy-ins, because I'd hate to knock off of a game if I liked the game and wasn't tilty, just cause I'd run out of money.

Since I couldn't stomach a 1500 dollar hit on a 2000 dollar bankroll, I wouldn't play this game.

The problem you may find is that you may hurt yourself for your regular game if you try this game. If you find yourself down a thousand in a the 2/5 game, then you'll be dangerously short when you go back to your 1/2 game. Two or three bad sessions at 1/2 on a roll of a grand could leave you completely busto.

On a side note, although I started playing 1-2 on a $2000 roll, I consider that too small for the level (fortuantely, I didn't go on a big downswing while my roll was that small, and I'm well bankrolled for 1/2 now). If you regularly deplete your roll to two grand, there is a very high likelihood that you will find yourself busting your roll at some point, even if you are the best player in your regular game.

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Old 09-16-2007, 07:52 PM
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OP. you said you normally buy in for 100bb and you can't play your game otherwise. hopefully this isn't true, short stack poker, especially against a bunch of lagtards is the easiest poker ever if you are looking to make money. if you can buy in to this game for 40bb, i would absolutely take a shot, if you lose 3 buy ins, then you are hurt but not done.. and your ev is ++++
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Old 09-17-2007, 03:00 PM
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I've been playing hold'em for about 4 years now, and I have become a winning player. I have a bankroll that is currently about $2,000.

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This answers your own question in an unpleasant way. DUCY?
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:06 AM
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I've been playing hold'em for about 4 years now, and I have become a winning player. I have a bankroll that is currently about $2,000.

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This answers your own question in an unpleasant way. DUCY?

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This isn't true.

I am a winning player for over four years now and my roll is similar, due to the fact that I paid for my wedding, paid bills and other things with monies.

Your roll shouldn't be bigger than your bank account.. so if you are becoming successfull in poker and the roll grows large AND you have a family with NEEDS for those poker dollars... you TAKE THEM OFF THE TABLE.

So, in closing.. having a 2k roll after a few years does not neccessarily mean he isn't a winning player.
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