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Old 09-14-2007, 02:29 PM
hotbacon hotbacon is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t like my QQ much.

what the hell
is the average 1/2 guy really this passive that it makes this a fold, wtf i snap this fistpump and everything
draws, aj, stupid [censored], ur gettin great odds to call
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Old 09-14-2007, 02:41 PM
HoldEmNewby HoldEmNewby is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t like my QQ much.

I shrug my shoulders and remind myself that people do dumb things in 3bet pots. i call.
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Old 09-14-2007, 02:49 PM
Noam Chomsky Noam Chomsky is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t like my QQ much.

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I call. To many draws and Jx hands that you beat to be able to fold imo.

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what draws? AKhh and AQhh. And in terms of the Jx hands he can only have AJ and I don't typically put unknowns on the bottom of their range as a rule of thumb.

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I'm calling this.

What makes you say an unknown that BG hasn't seen a lot (and BG plays a lot) has such a tight range.

It's random hearts, a non set pocket pair that puts BG on AK, a lone jack,etc. enough to call here.

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I see two random cards and AK enough to call here without even considering the lower pps and draws. I'm talking about 22/18 type tags, 17/15 nittier tags, everyone seems to do really dumb stuff in rr pots these days. I wouldn't fold AJ and would probably stack off as low as 99 here at least 60% of the time the way the games have been playing recently.
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Old 09-14-2007, 02:51 PM
Oct0puz Oct0puz is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t like my QQ much.

Is it not wrong to bet unless you are calling a push?
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Old 09-14-2007, 02:57 PM
Melchiades Melchiades is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t like my QQ much.

I call fast. No fistpumping, but folding doesn't really cross my mind.
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Old 09-14-2007, 03:07 PM
Bukem_ Bukem_ is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t like my QQ much.

wow i am one to make big folds and I pretty much instacall here.

I don't play that much 1/2 on stars, but my experience is that people call way too lightly vs 3 bets, in an attempt(lol) to outplay their opponents with any two cards.
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Old 09-14-2007, 03:40 PM
Etats360 Etats360 is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t like my QQ much.

NO reads=call
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Old 09-14-2007, 03:51 PM
hagum hagum is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t like my QQ much.

First post on these forums so I dont expect you guys to think I know anything about anything. BUT why did you call preflop if you weren't ready to play for your stack on a
flop like that?!
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Old 09-14-2007, 03:52 PM
We Major We Major is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t like my QQ much.

Would he stack off w/ AJ here? If he does your equity becomes about 42%..an easy call. If he wouldn't stack off w/ AJ here then your equity is about 33%...very close between calling and folding.

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34,650 games 0.005 secs 6,930,000 games/sec

Board: Jh 4h 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.472% 33.47% 00.00% 11598 0.00 { QcQs }
Hand 1: 66.528% 66.53% 00.00% 23052 0.00 { KK+, JJ-TT, 44-33, AhKh, AJs, Ah5h, Ah2h, 7h5h, 6h5h }


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28,710 games 0.005 secs 5,742,000 games/sec

Board: Jh 4h 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.746% 38.75% 00.00% 11124 0.00 { QcQs }
Hand 1: 61.254% 61.25% 00.00% 17586 0.00 { AA, JJ-TT, 44-33, AhKh, AJs, Ah5h, Ah2h, 7h5h, 6h5h }


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37,620 games 0.005 secs 7,524,000 games/sec

Board: Jh 4h 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.743% 47.74% 00.00% 17961 0.00 { QcQs }
Hand 1: 52.257% 52.26% 00.00% 19659 0.00 { AA, JJ-TT, 44-33, AhKh, AJs, Ah5h, Ah2h, 7h5h, 6h5h, AJo }


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25,740 games 0.005 secs 5,148,000 games/sec

Board: Jh 4h 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.332% 34.33% 00.00% 8837 0.00 { QcQs }
Hand 1: 65.668% 65.67% 00.00% 16903 0.00 { AA, JJ-TT, 44-33, AhKh, Ah5h, Ah2h, 7h5h, 6h5h }


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25,740 games 0.005 secs 5,148,000 games/sec

Board: Jh 4h 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.332% 34.33% 00.00% 8837 0.00 { QcQs }
Hand 1: 65.668% 65.67% 00.00% 16903 0.00 { AA, JJ-TT, 44-33, AhKh, Ah5h, Ah2h, 7h5h, 6h5h }


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23,760 games 0.005 secs 4,752,000 games/sec

Board: Jh 4h 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.194% 33.19% 00.00% 7887 0.00 { QcQs }
Hand 1: 66.806% 66.81% 00.00% 15873 0.00 { AA, JJ-TT, 44-33, AhKh, Ah5h, Ah2h }


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17,820 games 0.005 secs 3,564,000 games/sec

Board: Jh 4h 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.347% 41.35% 00.00% 7368 0.00 { QcQs }
Hand 1: 58.653% 58.65% 00.00% 10452 0.00 { AA, JJ-TT, AhKh, Ah5h, Ah2h }


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14,850 games 0.005 secs 2,970,000 games/sec

Board: Jh 4h 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.667% 40.67% 00.00% 6039 0.00 { QcQs }
Hand 1: 59.333% 59.33% 00.00% 8811 0.00 { AA, JJ-TT }


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5,940 games 0.016 secs 371,250 games/sec

Board: Jh 4h 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 07.980% 07.98% 00.00% 474 0.00 { QcQs }
Hand 1: 92.020% 92.02% 00.00% 5466 0.00 { AA }


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Old 09-14-2007, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: I don\'t like my QQ much.

callaments
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