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Old 09-14-2007, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: Mises and \"New Atheism\"

If you need something to replace god I would suggest a teddy bear or maybe one of those pray-to-me Elmos.
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:22 AM
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Objectivism?

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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AYN RAND WAS NOT A PHILOSOPHER

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Subjectivist?
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:34 AM
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Default Re: Mises and \"New Atheism\"

Just open your eyes, accept reality as you see it and there cannot possibly be any benevolent and intelligent god, hence the concept has NO value at all.

A malevolent god or a dum god is not believable as far as its promises are concerned. Just forget it, and start living fully as a human being where every decision you make is a moral one, up to you, and worthy of reflection.

A benevolent, intelligent or conscious god is for people that cannot handle reality, and unfortunately it shows!
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:42 AM
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Default Re: Mises and \"New Atheism\"

Hitchen explicitly provides an alternative to devotion to religion in his Love, Poverty and War book. He has said in many interviews it is his wish that people seek guidance and joy from literatur eand science with paticular regard to the age of enlightenment . e,g, "I find evolution/ sceince far more brilliant than any burning bush".
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:57 AM
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Just open your eyes, accept reality as you see it and there cannot possibly be any benevolent and intelligent government, hence the concept has NO value at all.

A malevolent government or a dum government is not believable as far as its promises are concerned. Just forget it, and start living fully as a human being where every decision you make is a moral one, up to you, and worthy of reflection.

A benevolent, intelligent or conscious government is for people that cannot handle reality, and unfortunately it shows!

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Walked right into that one.
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:59 AM
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Government doesn't need to be benevolent to be functioning.
DUCY?

Economists today are well aware of public choice theory.
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:03 PM
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Subjectivist?

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Ayn Rand is to philosophy as the Spice Girls are to music. Do you get it now?
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:25 PM
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Subjectivist?

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Ayn Rand is to philosophy as the Spice Girls are to music. Do you get it now?

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So you're saying Ayn Rand, if alive today, would starve herself, get bad implants, and marry a football star?
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:29 PM
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How do you characterize the "old brand" of atheism?
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:31 PM
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How do you characterize the "old brand" of atheism?

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I guess when you would get burned at the stake for atheism, old atheism was not believing in god an not liking being told that you were a bad person for believing that. New atheism is telling other people they're bad people because they believe in god. The ironing is delicious.
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