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Old 09-13-2007, 11:47 AM
jetlag99 jetlag99 is offline
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Default Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand

Yes, this is very easy fold preflop.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand

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Yes, this is very easy fold preflop.

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Agreed, why do you want to play a junk hand out of position against the chip leader on the bubble?

I think shoving is better than completing here but between the three choices def a fold
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand

def a fold especially when the short stack is about to become the bb, no need to risk going broke when it's highly likely the short stack is going out on the next hand or two.
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand

shoving would be awful here...
i just wanted to complete minbet and thought he might fold in like 60% just because i didn't complete any hand before.
the way the hand evolved is very strange, but shoving would be huge -ev.
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand

fold fold fold pf pf pf
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand

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shoving would be awful here...
i just wanted to complete minbet and thought he might fold in like 60% just because i didn't complete any hand before.
the way the hand evolved is very strange, but shoving would be huge -ev.

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yes shoving is bad, but its better than completing because at least you eliminate the positional disadvantage, I was mainly saying that to point out that its an easy fold
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Old 09-13-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand

pf I would fold, but if you do call, you have to be willing to let it go if you don't hit the flop hard. Either bet more on the flop to take it down, or check/fold. A minbet isn't going to push him off a draw or middle/top pair.
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Old 09-13-2007, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand

for the record: i know, that 45o ain't no monster.
but for the play that i wanted to make, my cards didn't even matter.
*sigh*
please, stop telling me that one should fold 45o preflop.
i know it now...
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Old 09-13-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand

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one should fold 45o preflop.

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