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Old 09-12-2007, 05:39 PM
Cavok Cavok is offline
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Default Flop a set, how is my line?

Villain is 17/7/4 after 30 hands

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($199.73)
BB ($153.2)
UTG ($237.1)
Hero ($178.1)
Button ($528.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6</font>, BB calls $4, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($18) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, SB calls $22, BB calls $14.

Turn: ($108) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $24</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $64</font>, SB calls $40.

River: ($236) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $88</font>, Hero calls $78.10 (All-In).

Final Pot: $392.21
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Old 09-12-2007, 05:42 PM
4_2_it 4_2_it is offline
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Default Re: Flop a set, how is my line?

Raise flop to $60 or so and AI on the turn. As played, BB is getting a nice price on his draw.
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Old 09-12-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Flop a set, how is my line?

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Raise flop to $60 or so and AI on the turn. As played, BB is getting a nice price on his draw.

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I can see raising more on the flop but do we really want him to fold his overpair on the turn?
He has two outs and I don't want him to fold his JJ+ hand, I want all his money in the pot [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

As a newbie to NL this is probably something that I need to learn...
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: Flop a set, how is my line?

If he's gone this far, he's unlikely to fold his overpair on this board. But betting more on flop helps you by making a turn all in proportionally smaller and thus easier for him to call.
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Old 09-13-2007, 08:04 AM
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Default Re: Flop a set, how is my line?

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I can see raising more on the flop but do we really want him to fold his overpair on the turn?
He has two outs and I don't want him to fold his JJ+ hand, I want all his money in the pot [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


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This is wrong headed thinking. If he has a flush draw he's correct to call your raise. Your goal isnt to keep your customer in the pot. Your goal is to get him to make the biggest mistake hes capable of making. Since calling your raise isnt a mistake at all, you failed to do your job here.
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