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Old 09-11-2007, 07:26 PM
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Default $114t- WTF Limps? What can I shove?

Villian's random. Slightly donkish from the little I've seen.

What can I shove here if it's passed to me?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t150 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t3510)
UTG+1 (t1465)
MP1 (t1130)
MP2 (t1255)
Hero (t1170)
Button (t1315)
SB (t2175)
BB (t1480)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with X X
UTG calls t150,
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: $114t- WTF Limps? What can I shove?

66+,AT+
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: $114t- WTF Limps? What can I shove?

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Why?
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: $114t- WTF Limps? What can I shove?

Because you touch yourself at night.

Seriously, you ask for a range and you got one. 55 and A9 seem too low. Maybe KQs if I'm feeling frisky. What more do you want to hear?
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:44 PM
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Because you touch yourself at night.

Seriously, you ask for a range and you got one. 55 and A9 seem too low. Maybe KQs if I'm feeling frisky. What more do you want to hear?

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I wasn't being a dick. Just wondering why 55/A9 don't match well against his limp/call range. What's a reasonable limping range? Do I have FE or this a value shove?
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: $114t- WTF Limps? What can I shove?

seriously, i love this forum
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:55 PM
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I think this range should be a little tighter as HERO's stack is less than a 1/3 of Villains stack. I will shove more like 88+,AJs, Maybe KQs.

I just feel like 77/88 is a pretty large part of his limp snapcall range also AQ.

We have had 1 of these push over limper threads, every week it seems, however prior ranges have included A9s/55 even K10s.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:03 PM
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If hero had say 1300+ chips, I would bump it up to 88+. 1170 I'm starting to feel a little more gambly.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:04 PM
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Because you touch yourself at night.

Seriously, you ask for a range and you got one. 55 and A9 seem too low. Maybe KQs if I'm feeling frisky. What more do you want to hear?

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I wasn't being a dick. Just wondering why 55/A9 don't match well against his limp/call range. What's a reasonable limping range? Do I have FE or this a value shove?

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I expect to be called. The times he folds probably cancel out the times you get crushed from one of the players left to act. So don't add anything to the range for FE.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:07 PM
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Because you touch yourself at night.


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You say that like there's something wrong with it.
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