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Old 09-11-2007, 07:52 PM
Proofrock Proofrock is offline
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Default 200NL: Do you call this 60BB limp/shove?

Just new to the table, Villain so far appears to be a loose passive donkey (35/0 over a huge sample of 30 hands). I need about 46% equity to call -- do I have that?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $223.80
Hero (BB): $202.40
UTG: $127.15
MP: $97.85
CO: $282.85
BTN: $84.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, 4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $127.15</font>, Hero ... ?
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: Do you call this 60BB limp/shove?

How many times have you rised his limps in those 30 hands? If it's 10 I call, if this is the first time I fold.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: Do you call this 60BB limp/shove?

call
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: Do you call this 60BB limp/shove?

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How many times have you rised his limps in those 30 hands? If it's 10 I call, if this is the first time I fold.

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First time. He's done nothing else of note.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:59 PM
13_Xerxes 13_Xerxes is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: Do you call this 60BB limp/shove?

No variance, I quick fold.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: Do you call this 60BB limp/shove?

i usually insta call this bc i don't give these donkeys any credit for doing such bs. his range should def be 77+, AJs+, AJo+.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: Do you call this 60BB limp/shove?

You need 46.1% equity to call and he'll probably have pairs here (and you aren't 50-50 vs those pairs, you're anywhere from 58-42 to 55-45!!) a lot more than he'll have AQ. Easy, easy fold.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: Do you call this 60BB limp/shove?

i snap-call (just basing that on experience), someone did this vs me w/ Q10 the other day.
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expect to be ahead a lot of the time


edit: theres the math, so i might be wrong, but i swear you see aq/aj a lot here
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: Do you call this 60BB limp/shove?

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You need 46.1% equity to call and he'll probably have pairs here a lot more than he'll have AQ. Easy, easy fold.

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you flip w/ most pairs and have him dominated when he has a hand like AQ, AJ. the only hands you really have to worry about is AA and KK.

edit: this move is just so donkish. ive seen ppl do this w/ like KT, QJ, K9, 97... i hate folding AK here.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: Do you call this 60BB limp/shove?

call/berate is a pretty std line here
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