Cincinnati Kid - on TCN (2:30am EST)

[KathleenStand]

Incredible movie.

Raising him on third street with a lousy three flush.

[Michaelson]

What is the line, "being a great poker player is all about making the wrong move at the right time"?

Something like that.

Stupid movie.

You ever get into a verbal with some table coach who's dreadful. Things get really personal and you're both going at each other. Then he raises into your flopped straight with nothing but a backdoor flush draw which he proceeds to nail. Then he gives you a look like 'don't mess with me, cause I'm hot sh*t."

Well the moral of Cincinatti Kid is that guy actually is hot sh*t.

[mmbt0ne]

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Incredible movie.

Raising him on third street with a lousy three flush.

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Didn't you steal $50 from someone in the zoo?

[guids]

I thought that was NoamChomsky? He is also a huge douchebag.

[wet work]

heres my take on the final hand. at the time the movie was made westerns were really popular movies. one of the common story lines in western stories was the naive farmer(or whatever) having 4kings, he'd run off and get the deed to his farm, only to be facing the cardsharps 4aces. in that context the final hand isn't so far-fetched, wasn't it aces full vs. a str.flush? i'm not sure who wrote the movie but i'd bet whoever it was had probably wrote some western stuff too so it was probably an attempt to avoid the quad kings vs. aces cliche. i could be way off but thats always been my view on it.

[mmbt0ne]

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I thought that was NoamChomsky? He is also a huge douchebag.

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NoamChomsky = KathleenStand

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[DrPublo]

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I saw it too long ago, but as I recall it was 5 card stud and the Kid had somethin or other good that was beat by an inside straight flush on the last card, I think a wheel maybe. So I think you got it reversed.

It was supposed to prove something about poker skill and the Kid's real standing and fate and whatever, and it crushed him, but it was completely far fetched dumb luck and just seemed really contrived.

Anyway, that's my very ancient memory.

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MORE SPOILERS BELOW.

If this is the case, then I got the movie way way wrong. If you remember correctly, there's a whole subplot about one of the Kid's backers unsure that he could win against the ringer (Edward G Robinson, can't remember the characters name), so he decides to have one of the dealers cheat for him at specific times just to make sure he holds his own. Kid catches wind of this and requests a dealer change just before the final hand happens. Then he loses aces full to a rivered str8 flush, in 5 stud no less. Just an unfathomable hand. I took this to mean that the ringer got to the other dealer (they appeared to be old friends) and set up a similar cheating arrangement with her.

So that opened up a bunch of possible morals:
1. If you're going to cheat, cheat big
2. If you're not cheating, someone else is
3. Skill has nothing over cheating
etc etc

Just my 0.02

The Doc

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I took this to mean that the ringer got to the other dealer (they appeared to be old friends) and set up a similar cheating arrangement with her.

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ooooohhhh!!!! Good catch! I never noticed that before. So eryone cheats except the Kid. Nobody is a super-cool as Steven McQueen.

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[BassMasterK]

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Incredible movie.

Raising him on third street with a lousy three flush.

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Aren't you off to your third account yet?

Appropriate you pretend your a girl on this account since you are a nutless little thief. Is $50 really worth it?

Here's to hoping you go busto.

[silkyslim]

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(This isn't a spoiler, everyone knows the movie ends with a ridiculous hand. This post contains no details that may spoil.)

For those of you who haven't seen this movie, let me pass along some great advice that I once received:

Watch this movie. It's a great movie.

Then, at the end, in the climactic final hand , just pretend that trip 7's got beat by trip 9's on the river. Don't just pretend it, CONVINCE YOURSELF THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. That's the only way the silly hand won't ruin a good movie.

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Orwellian doublethink