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Old 09-10-2007, 11:01 PM
hammerva hammerva is offline
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Default Proper turn play with aces and facing a check/raise?

This probably the 4th or 5th hand in another poor limit session:

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $20.55
UTG+1: $9
MP1: $9.40
MP2: $0.95
MP3: $41.50
CO: $23
Hero: $18.70
SB: $19.90
BB: $19

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 4 folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10SB, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 3 folds, CO calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7BB, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Hero ???

I guess I should assume that if someone checks on the flop and then magically check/raises on the turn that the 6 really helped him. I guess the question is whether this is a crying call situation or a simple turn fold?
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:04 PM
bennyhana bennyhana is offline
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Default Re: Proper turn play with aces and facing a check/raise?

call down
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have a read
move on
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: Proper turn play with aces and facing a check/raise?

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I guess I should assume that if someone checks on the flop and then magically check/raises on the turn that the 6 really helped him.

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Actually this is probably not true. He probably had a strong hand on the flop.

You still need to call down anyway.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: Proper turn play with aces and facing a check/raise?

call down standard
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: Proper turn play with aces and facing a check/raise?

if you lost this hand you'll need to get over it and move on to the next hand ... you can start bet/folding overpairs headsup (you'll get run over and burn money ... bet.fold something like A6 here might be OK, read depending)

villain could have easily hit the kind on the turn but wanted to wait untill a 'safe' turn card came ... when it's heads up on the turn do you always need TPTK+ to bet (no)

so you've go Kx hands, 54, sets, A6 (or whatever), and two possible flush draws that an aggressive villain might be pushing (espeically if you've bet/fold the turn recently)
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: Proper turn play with aces and facing a check/raise?

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call down
take notes
have a read
move on

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Old 09-11-2007, 10:34 AM
Smurph64 Smurph64 is offline
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Default Re: Proper turn play with aces and facing a check/raise?

*grunch

this is standard move from some players to prove their intelligence and ability to play tricky poker.

Bottom line if the 6 helped him here the only logical cards he had preflop were 45 of diamonds or pocket 6's. Not much else makes sense and therefore his checkraise is trickiness(ie bad poker).

So given the newness to the table and the outside chance he does hit his set/straight here I call for showdown.

The tough question is do you bet the river if he checks it? Again being new to table I probably call and mark this hand down in my notes.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:17 PM
LadyWrestler LadyWrestler is offline
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Default Re: Proper turn play with aces and facing a check/raise?

I would also call the turn and check or call the river.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: Proper turn play with aces and facing a check/raise?

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*grunch

this is standard move from some players to prove their intelligence and ability to play tricky poker.

Bottom line if the 6 helped him here the only logical cards he had preflop were 45 of diamonds or pocket 6's. Not much else makes sense and therefore his checkraise is trickiness(ie bad poker).

So given the newness to the table and the outside chance he does hit his set/straight here I call for showdown.

The tough question is do you bet the river if he checks it? Again being new to table I probably call and mark this hand down in my notes.

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Well you were close. It was actually 4 5 offsuit [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: Proper turn play with aces and facing a check/raise?

oh jesus christ. click the link yourselves.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...esultsDog2.jpg
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