$36turbo: What to push here?

[slimon]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t120/t240
6 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: t1200
UTG+1: t2270
CO: t3440
Button: t2780
SB: t1400
BB: t2410

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1210</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB calls all-in t1400</font>, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: t570 returned to Hero.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t1480, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t2240)


Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t1480, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t2240)


River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t1480, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t2240)


Results:
Final pot: t1480

The ranges I put for utg+1 is 66+,A9o+,A7s+,KQo+,KJs+

CO 66+,A9o+,A7s+,KQo+,KJs+

Button 44+,A7s+,A8o+,QJs+,

SB 33+,A4s+,A6o+,QJs+,KTs+,QJo+

BB 44+,A5s+,A6o+,KTs+,QJo+,

I set sngpt on 0.0 min edge and I get

Push hands: Push hands: 22+,AKs,AQs,AJs,ATs,A9s,A9o+,A8s,A7s,A5s,KQo,KTs+, QTs+,JTs (15.5%)

I been trying to figure out what to push here for centurys! Are we to the point we set min edge to 0.0? I know that min edge is changed depending on whether or not we can find more +ev situations later but how do I know if there are going to be more +ev situations later? There is a right answer for this push right?

This question is similar to my other question but in this one SB is not low on chips which allows me to push KTo+,K8s+,QTo+,Q9s+,JTo,J8s+,T8s+,98. The other thread didn't tell me how -ev are we willing to go in these situations. I want a right answer to these pushes but maybe there aren't? I want someone to tell me ok take a -ev 0.5 here. I hate that that in poker it depends =(. So basically I want someone to say to me take a -ev here with a number please and be done with it =0. Thank you for listening. Solve poker for me [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post11909587

[plexiq]

Well, i get:
You Push: 16.7%, 22+ A8s+ A5s-A4s ATo+ K9s+ KJo+ Q9s+ J9s+ T9s

UTG+1 Calls: 7.1%, 88+ ATs+ AJo+
CO Calls: 7.5%, 77+ ATs+ AJo+
BU Calls: 8.4%, 77+ ATs+ ATo+
SB Calls: 10.0%, 55+ A9s+ ATo+ KQs
BB Calls: 15.5%, 22+ A5s+ A8o+ KJs+ KQo

(Overcall Ranges see: here.)

But keep in mind this is only the ICM "optimal" play. I would push slightly looser than suggested, because you are about to lose a lot fold equity in future rounds if the blinds hit you again. I think QJo is a quite reasonable push here.

[sence25]

this is a very easy push