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Old 09-11-2007, 01:13 AM
badonkadonk badonkadonk is offline
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Default AQs EP, early in Stars $4+.40 180-max

Whaddya do on the flop here? Is it worth the call with 3 clean outs, maybe 3 aces, and a backdoor flush draw?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t1430)
UTG+1 (t1470)
MP1 (t1200)
MP2 (t1300)
MP3 (t3290)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1340)
SB (t1350)
BB (t3490)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero calls t20, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t20, SB calls t10, BB checks

Flop: (t80) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">Button bets t120</font>, SB calls t120, BB calls t120, Hero ?
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: AQs EP, early in Stars $4+.40 180-max

I fold the flop with that many people in it. Aces aren't guaranteed clean (Could be A8 or AT in there). Plus, the Ah and Jh are dirty, so you've gotta really discount your TP and straight outs. I think at best, you've got 6 outs, and that's if you're up against hands like 99, KJ, QT, etc. If it's AT vs. FD vs. QJ, you're drawing very slim. Your back door flush draw isn't strong either. You're likely 8:1 at best, and that's being optimistic.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:09 AM
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Default Re: AQs EP, early in Stars $4+.40 180-max

dont open limp AQs
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:01 AM
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Default Re: AQs EP, early in Stars $4+.40 180-max

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Whaddya do on the flop here? Is it worth the call with 3 clean outs, maybe 3 aces, and a backdoor flush draw?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t1430)
UTG+1 (t1470)
MP1 (t1200)
MP2 (t1300)
MP3 (t3290)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1340)
SB (t1350)
BB (t3490)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero calls t20, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t20, SB calls t10, BB checks

Flop: (t80) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">Button bets t120</font>, SB calls t120, BB calls t120, Hero ?

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Given the fact that the pot is still pretty small, u only have 20 in there, with no clue as to where you are with respect to your outs/implied odds...this is a fold. If u have A outs, they have some pretty serious reverse implied odds saddling them down. You're not deep enough to get the implied odds you need to draw to the guthsot.

I have no prob with the limp pre (although i usually raise) early, at a loose table.
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: AQs EP, early in Stars $4+.40 180-max

Raise to 80 pf. As played thats a horrible flop for your hand, easy fold. The only card you can really like on the turn is a non H J. A non h A would be just enough to keep you around to see the river.
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: AQs EP, early in Stars $4+.40 180-max

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dont open limp AQs

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fold on the flop
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:52 AM
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Default Re: AQs EP, early in Stars $4+.40 180-max

If you limp pre, you fold it here. You have little investment on basically an inside straight draw. You havent shown aggression+no table image+multi-way-pot= bad time to make a move.
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Old 09-11-2007, 06:43 AM
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Fold flop. I don't mind a limp pre.
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Old 09-11-2007, 07:05 AM
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Default Re: AQs EP, early in Stars $4+.40 180-max

Fold flop, limping pre in said tournament usually yields little results other than a larger commitment. The players in the tournament will still commit if they hit regardless of what you put in.

Obviously stealing blinds is important, but the blinds are 10/20 and completely inconsequential. In later stages never limp this pre.
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