This should be a quickie

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Sunday million on Stars; in the money but a long way from the final table (like 500 left or so, money started at 900). The next pay jump is a fair distance away.

I get moved to a new table where I don't know anybody. I fold my first two hands in the blinds and then pick up 55 on the button. Blinds are 3K/6K/600 and I have 86K. SB has 52K and BB has 96K. It is folded around to me-- what is the correct play?

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Raise 18000...call shove (either blind.) Maybe consider folding if BB makes it like 45K...

[donquay]

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Sunday million on Stars; in the money but a long way from the final table (like 500 left or so, money started at 900). The next pay jump is a fair distance away.

I get moved to a new table where I don't know anybody. I fold my first two hands in the blinds and then pick up 55 on the button. Blinds are 3K/6K/600 and I have 86K. SB has 52K and BB has 96K. It is folded around to me-- what is the correct play?

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Raise 18000...call shove (either blind.) Maybe consider folding if BB makes it like 45K...

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If I'm calling a shove from either blind, I'd rather open shove

[registrar]

Raising is more profitable than shoving here. Any better PP will call a shove but a wider range of overcards will resteal. There are also the times, particularly in the million, where a QJ type hand will call pf and then fold on the flop when it misses.

[MadLibs]

What about the time that QJ type shoves flop with air on a stop n go? Instacall?

Any call/check from a villain is terrible in this spot.

[shaundeeb]

anything but raise/fold to BB and open folding. limp/shoving fine as long as even if BB shoves over your limp you call. Raise/calling not awful but I prefer just to open shove here.

[JammyDodga]

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Raising is more profitable than shoving here. Any better PP will call a shove but a wider range of overcards will resteal. There are also the times, particularly in the million, where a QJ type hand will call pf and then fold on the flop when it misses.

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I think we want him to fold two overs, rather than coinflip against him.

Considering only the situation where they has two overs.

If SB & BB fold, we win whats in the pot so +EV 13400

if we get it all in against SB and he has overs, we win 55% of the time.

If we win we win
55000
+5400
+6000
=66400

if we lose we lose 55000

so EV of flipping against SB = 0.55x66400 + 0.45x55000 = +11770

Repeating the above for BB, we do slightly better butits still only +EV of 13220

either way, we are better off if they just fold. Also we have a lot less variance.

[JammyDodga]

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Raising is less profitable than shoving here. Any better PP will call a shove but a wider range of overcards will resteal. There are also the times, particularly in the million, where a QJ type hand will call pf and then Call on the flop when he hits, where he would have folded to a push

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