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Old 09-10-2007, 03:41 PM
sbj sbj is offline
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Default Re: $36turbo: Fold A2o here?

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what about somethin like A7 or A8 easy shov?

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With <10XBB, I shove those on the Button.
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: $36turbo: Fold A2o here?

problem with a2 is that it really really really sux against their range
JT would be way better..... and you would prolly not push JT here.
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: $36turbo: Fold A2o here?

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what about somethin like A7 or A8 easy shov?

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something like AJs+ AQ+ 88+, i think

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Too tight, but it certainly depends.
Without cheating:
A8s+,A9o+,77+
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: $36turbo: Fold A2o here?

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what about somethin like A7 or A8 easy shov?

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something like AJs+ AQ+ 88+, i think

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Too tight, but it certainly depends.
Without cheating:
A8s+,A9o+,77+

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whoa, isnt this too tight too? About two weeks ago i randomly just realized a leak of mine is pushing too tight on the button with 9-10bbs. I did some random sngpt work and was shocked how loose you should be pushing there.
so now i would guess to push A5+, KJo+, QTs+ 44+ without actually running the numbers.

and runhot's range is what id push UTG here. we have to push looser on the button.

with all that said about pushing LOOSER on the button in this spot. A2o still doesnt qualify in our range.
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: $36turbo: Fold A2o here?

I feel like a complete maniac after 1 day of intense 2+2 STT reading. I push this without much thought. You would have to assume some very fancy ranges for SB/BB to make this a fold, no?

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problem with a2 is that it really really really sux against their range
JT would be way better..... and you would prolly not push JT here.

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The good thing about Ax is, you will not be called as often, due to card removal effects.
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: $36turbo: Fold A2o here?

yeah and if we push a2 or better and any pair should they really call us as wide as some suggested here?
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: $36turbo: Fold A2o here?

nice calculator there. are you going to keep it free in the future?
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: $36turbo: Fold A2o here?

Thanks. And yes, i plan to keep it free.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: $36turbo: Fold A2o here?

I think people on this forum are now in the habit of pushing less thin, because at the low games people are calling wider than you think, and at the high games, people are spite-calling more than you think. So in response, I think the 'taking any edge' push monster style has suffered and people are now making a retraction to less thin pushes.
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:22 AM
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Default Re: $36turbo: Fold A2o here?

given all the shorties, i would expect sb is calling 99+,AQ+
bb calling 88+,AT+
to my surprise, this becomes an ATC push.
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