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Old 09-10-2007, 11:43 PM
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Default AA gets checkraised by Tight villain

villain is 18/15/2.9 over 600 hands. I`m 18/13/2.6. I have played with him before and my read is that he only checkraises with sets or big draws.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero ($63.10)
Button ($44.65)
SB ($50.25)
BB ($113.20)
UTG ($40.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($4.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $12</font>

Hero ?
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:48 PM
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Default Re: AA gets checkraised by Tight villain

I dunno bro, I think this guy knows what he's doing. He might have some combo draw here. If he has 4s &amp; another spade, you are behind. If he just has 2 spades &amp; some sort of straight draw, yer basically flipping. Put in the times he has sets and two pairs, and you are behind most times.

I fold against this competent villain.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: AA gets checkraised by Tight villain

I came up with this range, given my read on villain. If this is his range its a pretty easy fold.



equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.207% 32.02% 01.19% 6973 259.50 { AcAh }
Hand 1: 66.793% 65.60% 01.19% 14288 259.50 { 66-33, As4s, As3s, 9s8s, 8s7s, 65s }
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: AA gets checkraised by Tight villain

Yeah, I plugged in a whole buncha stuff while writing response. Basically any spade + 4spades you are 45/55 against. You are obviously behind any set &amp; two pair. Any two spades you are like 53/47 against. + you didn't even consider that homeboy flopped a straight of some sort. I mean, he looks decent, so I doubt he's calling raise with 74 or 42 from blinds, but ya never know. Easy fold I agree.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: AA gets checkraised by Tight villain

Thanks for reply mookboi. I folded, but I actualy was quite surprised how much his range is actualy ahead.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:20 AM
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I played 13/10/3 at 50nl, and I was cring 33+ all day on these flops. I mean, if your read is that he wouldn't do this with 77, then you gotta go with that. But I'm just sayin.

Given that, if I was Hero I'd probably call and reevaluate since we have position.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:32 AM
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I definetly think villain would not checkraise 88-TT here. I included 77 and 7s9s in the range, and it still doesn`t looks to good.


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.286% 40.26% 01.02% 11161 283.50 { AcAh }
Hand 1: 58.714% 57.69% 01.02% 15992 283.50 { 77-33, As4s, As3s, 9s7s, 8s7s, 65s }

I don`t think villain would slow down on turn with any of those hands, even if a blank falls and he`s holding a draw.
Not sure about this tho.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: AA gets checkraised by Tight villain

He never check raises on a bluff, knowing you are going to cont bet? I guess I'm thinking about it too much.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:51 AM
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How would villain play 88-TT. Donkbet all the time?
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: AA gets checkraised by Tight villain

Wow, I'm a donk. I'd probably almost never fold this while playing... but looking at the math... it does seem to be a relatively easy fold. I really need to play around with Pokerstove more.
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