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Old 09-10-2007, 08:09 PM
Proofrock Proofrock is offline
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Default 1/2 NL: I\'m a folding machine

Villain is 30/20 over less than 100 hands. Folding the turn seems weak but may be right. I'm not ahead here 1 time in 3 on the river, am I?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $209.20
BB: $192.00
UTG: $140.70
MP: $226.10
Hero (CO): $208.55
BTN: $22.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $6.00

Flop: ($17) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($17) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $43.00</font>, Hero calls $31.00

River: ($103) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $100.00</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $203.00 ($3 Rake)
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:12 PM
ofishstix ofishstix is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 NL: I\'m a folding machine

i play it the same way.
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:22 PM
rEvo rEvo is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 NL: I\'m a folding machine

I'd cbet flop+b/f turn.

a) villain will fold pretty often on the flop
b) if I catch a A/K on the turn and get raised I'm done with the hand.
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL: I\'m a folding machine

If i check the flop im also checking this turn.
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL: I\'m a folding machine

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I'd cbet flop+b/f turn.

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i agree with this.

OP, why call the turn raise if you are going to fold a blank river?
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL: I\'m a folding machine

flop is an easy cbet.

i agree with thedivinerod with regards to check line.
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL: I\'m a folding machine

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flop is an easy cbet.

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Why is that? I'm inclined to cb less when I have a longshot draw to the nuts on a board that likely hit my opponent's range with a hand that is either the best now or can easily improve to be the best but can't stand a check-raise. What's the mistake here?
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL: I\'m a folding machine

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If i check the flop im also checking this turn.

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Why? I mean, on the turn we picked up TPTK and it put a flush draw on the board, a check-raise is unlikely, and there are certainly worse hands that will call a bet, maybe two.
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:06 PM
wrkingtobegreat wrkingtobegreat is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 NL: I\'m a folding machine

This is such an easy fold...we beat like NOTHING here. Do you guys really see villain getting this aggressive with AJ or worse?
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 NL: I\'m a folding machine

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OP, why call the turn raise if you are going to fold a blank river?

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(1) My hand can improve -- 9 outs isn't enough to draw by itself, but I'll at least call a river bet if my hand improves.

(2) There's a chance I'm ahead on the turn. Think of it as re-evaluating -- I'm almost never ahead when he pots the river, but I am often ahead if he checks or throws out a blocker.
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