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Old 09-10-2007, 11:28 AM
fdwarrior fdwarrior is offline
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Default QQ vs K flop donk

Vill is 13/6/1.6/43 - 400 hands


0.25/0.50 Fixed-Limit Hold'em <font color="blue">(6 handed)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="grey">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="red">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="grey">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="red">MP3 bets</font>, Hero ?

I just cant fold in spots like this, what is the best line ?
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: QQ vs K flop donk

if you cant fold then call.

raising anywhere UI is horrid.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: QQ vs K flop donk

Posting blind: raise.

Having read your post: short-handed, possible steal, yeah, raise. If he 3-bombs either calling and folding the turn UI or folding on the spot are correct. (I'm guessing some people will tell you that you should only raise if you can fold to the 3-bet, but that's not true; however, you also shouldn't just blindly call this down.)
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: QQ vs K flop donk

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if you cant fold then call.

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And then what on the turn?

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raising anywhere UI is horrid.

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Meh, given the chance that MP3 is on a steal/resteal line (he's TP-ish preflop, but aggro post), you can't expect to get another bet out of him on the turn unless he improves to better than you (Ax, etc), and I don't see thinking that a raise will fold TT/JJ. If he did flop top-pair or has AA, then HIS line is horrid.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: QQ vs K flop donk

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raising anywhere UI is horrid.

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QFT

Call, call, call UI is definitely the play. Get to showdown cheaply and take a note
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:06 PM
Frank Zappy Frank Zappy is offline
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Default Re: QQ vs K flop donk

Easy raise, I mean EASY! Can't keep giving people credit for hitting the Flop and hope to come out ahead.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: QQ vs K flop donk

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If he did flop top-pair or has AA, then HIS line is horrid.

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I dont know why you're mentioning aces, but I think his line is pretty damn good if he can get us to raise this flop with a hand like QQ/JJ/TT
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:16 PM
DBSpecial DBSpecial is offline
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Default Re: QQ vs K flop donk

I think we can discount AA when he doesn't cap PF.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:35 PM
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Easy raise, I mean EASY! Can't keep giving people credit for hitting the Flop and hope to come out ahead.

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so then he folds all his junk and we put in more money if drawing to 2 outs or less.

not to mention we leave ourselves wide open for a check raise on a big street.

good plan.
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:21 PM
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I think we can discount AA when he doesn't cap PF.

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HU the opposite is almost true in my experience.
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