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Old 09-10-2007, 09:53 AM
jeccross jeccross is offline
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Default Re: I thought he made the flush, so I bet/folded. Good or bad?

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Someone mentioned c/c'ing here and that is what I usually do in this situation. If you are going to invest 30$ on a bet, why not invest it in a c/c instead?
I feel a 2p would rais the flop or turn here so it's hard to put him on that.

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Because you lose value when 1 pair and maybe 2 pair hands check behind you? And because when you bet you get to choose the size.


No way I'm folding here for $30 in that pot. If only because by doing that you leave yourself in the position that an observant opponent my bluff v you in positions like this if he sees you fold.
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: I thought he made the flush, so I bet/folded. Good or bad?

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Someone mentioned c/c'ing here and that is what I usually do in this situation. If you are going to invest 30$ on a bet, why not invest it in a c/c instead?
I feel a 2p would rais the flop or turn here so it's hard to put him on that.

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A guy like this is much more likely to call a bet with one pair/weak 2 pair than to value bet it himself. He doesn't have much to bluff with either because just about every draw hit.

b/f >>> c/c imo.
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: I thought he made the flush, so I bet/folded. Good or bad?

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b/f >>> c/c

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Old 09-10-2007, 10:51 AM
Imrahil Imrahil is offline
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Default Re: I thought he made the flush, so I bet/folded. Good or bad?

This is actually a call on the river I think. Probably not totally accurate but getting such great odds I dunno.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

36 games 0.005 secs 7,200 games/sec

Board: Tc 7h Jc 2d Ac
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.000% 50.00% 00.00% 18 0.00 { 9d8c }
Hand 1: 50.000% 50.00% 00.00% 18 0.00 { AJs-ATs, KQs, Kc9c, 6c5c, AJo-ATo, KQo }
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:25 AM
Miffed Miffed is offline
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Default Re: I thought he made the flush, so I bet/folded. Good or bad?

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Vilain is a 50/22/1.5 over 150 hands ,typycally the kind of player that overvalue hands and go broke on TPWK frequently, his AF(1.5) is actually strong considering the amount of hands he is playing .
I would never fold that river to a min raise as he shows up with 2 pair as often as a flush here.Hell he might just have AK here.
Basiccaly my idea is that he is the type of fish u can t make big laydown against especially when you are getting great pot odds.

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i agree with this thinking. I think its a case of what type of hands is he minraising in all positions (stuff like KQ/AJ he may be bad enough to minraise with) otherwise i think you have too much quity versus 2 pair to consider folding depsite his line.
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