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Old 09-09-2007, 04:51 AM
Hail Eris Hail Eris is offline
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Default Re: Overpair on the river... Bet for value?

This is likely J8 or a flush draw that ran into a straight, like 56dd or 68dd. Easy fold.
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:01 AM
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Default Re: Overpair on the river... Bet for value?

Yeah folded after timing out, obv it should be an easy laydown, but for some reason I didn't buy it... I turned in to an over suspicious donk for some almost fatal seconds... He told me afterwards that he had 56d, which make sense as some of you have pointed out...
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:56 AM
CrAcK_N_CoKe CrAcK_N_CoKe is offline
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Default Re: Overpair on the river... Bet for value?

I prefer check-calling river and its far from my style usually , but i think theres more value in it if he can bluff.And u put him on a flush draw...so...u know what to do.If hes a station or u have been over aggro then ok value bet it.

EDIT: the more i think about it , the more i having a problem putting him on a hand , and the majority of the hands he can have he played it BADDD.I think 87 or j8 of diamond is possible but im suprise he didnt check-raise with it.J7 is more likely.but all those hands even if he pair his sevens dont give u a freakin cent on the river and J8 is gonna put u to the decision which will be an easy one anyway if he check raise u.

A10 of clubs maybe.A random flush draw calling 6$ on the turn is suspect.

Yeah i vote for A10 of clubs ... and in this case u got to value bet , but i still prefer checkcalling.Strange logic i know.
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: Overpair on the river... Bet for value?

I check overpairs in and out of position on the river on draw heavy flops. OOP it lets villian bluff a missed draw +EV. In position, villians most likely hand is a busted draw that can't call a bet. If we are wrong about villians holdings, checking behind keeps us from folding to a cr. Villian could start the hand w/a fd. He then backs into 2 pair.
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: Overpair on the river... Bet for value?

Bet fold.
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Overpair on the river... Bet for value?

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Old 09-10-2007, 12:59 AM
wooziephantom wooziephantom is offline
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Default Re: Overpair on the river... Bet for value?

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I check overpairs in and out of position on the river on draw heavy flops. OOP it lets villian bluff a missed draw +EV. In position, villians most likely hand is a busted draw that can't call a bet. If we are wrong about villians holdings, checking behind keeps us from folding to a cr. Villian could start the hand w/a fd. He then backs into 2 pair.

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I agree with you despite of what everybody else has replied... I think there's a lot of arguments for checking behind... But it's a part of my game that really needs improvement and I'm trying and failing a bit with value bets on the river at the moment.. But I don't really think there was to much value in that bet...
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