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Old 09-09-2007, 08:43 PM
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Mary Enig writes like caffeine is the devil in her book Nourishing Traditions. All I know is that anything that gives me the [censored] like caffeine does can't be good for you.

BTW, Enig is (was maybe) the U of Maryland lipid biochemist who has fought for years and years to convince people that trans fats are bad.

http://www.enig.com/trans.html
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Old 09-09-2007, 11:10 PM
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All I know is that anything that gives me the [censored] like caffeine does can't be good for you.


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Probably my favorite thing about morning coffee.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:59 PM
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All I know is that anything that gives me the [censored] like caffeine does can't be good for you.


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Probably my favorite thing about morning coffee.

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Ditto. I'll be keeping my stool around till I have grandkids if I don't drink coffee.
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:54 AM
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Mary Enig writes like caffeine is the devil in her book Nourishing Traditions. All I know is that anything that gives me the [censored] like caffeine does can't be good for you.

BTW, Enig is (was maybe) the U of Maryland lipid biochemist who has fought for years and years to convince people that trans fats are bad.

http://www.enig.com/trans.html

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muh. phd in nutrition science. WTF does that even mean. Give me a biochemist, molecular biologist, something... hell even an MD with some research...
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:00 PM
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She is a lipid biochemist and a nutritionist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enig

You can email her if you want a point in the right direction for articles on pubmed. These people are usually very helpful. I know I'm not going to look.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:18 PM
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She is a lipid biochemist and a nutritionist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enig

You can email her if you want a point in the right direction for articles on pubmed. These people are usually very helpful. I know I'm not going to look.

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i think the book caffeine blues has 400 references or something to scientific stuff.
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:13 PM
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Here's a quote from that long, but imo worthwhile, Michael Pollan article that I've pimped three times now:

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But if nutritionism leads to a kind of false consciousness in the mind of the eater, the ideology can just as easily mislead the scientist. Most nutritional science involves studying one nutrient at a time, an approach that even nutritionists who do it will tell you is deeply flawed. ''The problem with nutrient-by-nutrient nutrition science,'' points out Marion Nestle, the New York University nutritionist, ''is that it takes the nutrient out of the context of food, the food out of the context of diet and the diet out of the context of lifestyle.''

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Old 09-10-2007, 07:43 PM
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That's a very good quote.
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