KJ oop

TheBad · #1 09-09-2007, 09:35 AM

Villain is 88/10/0.6 after 40 hands...

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 3-bets, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: (5 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

River: (7 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

PF: I raise for value. The 3-bet seems strange.
Flop: I want to checkraise.
Turn: So i have to lead..
River: I really want to fold, but sometimes villains are bluffing here.

Do you lead this flop ? Fold the river ?

Bona · #2 09-09-2007, 09:47 AM

Huh. MP2 smooth raises preflop then checks the flop through? With that action and the fact you only have to be good on the river 1 in 8, I would call the river. Also I might want to play with him a lot [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

kerowo · #3 09-09-2007, 09:56 AM

KJo isn't a hand you want to be raising with out of the blinds. It will cost you money in the end.

LRR tend to be monsters from normal players, but with this guys stats I wouldn't be too worried about it, he seems a bit dumb.

Other than PF hand looks fine. If you hadn't raised pre-flop and been re-raised I would donk this flop a lot.

Ulkis · #4 09-09-2007, 10:00 AM

Doesn't limp-3betting(raising) often mean QQ,KK,AA? If he had AA, would he have waited until river to bet? If he had KK, why didnt he bet flop? QQ and he bets river when A comes.

AK? why not bet flop?

Could he have been slowplaying AA? AF is 0.6 after all.

I think he either had AA,KK,QQ,AK and botched it up.

ChickenGeorge · #5 09-09-2007, 10:56 AM

I've seen many dumb players checking after PFR when they flop a monster (i.e. top set). Once there was one who checked all three streets with KK (flop Kxx) and I checked behind to showdown. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Another possibility is that he had a PP lower than K (I've seen bad players L/RR with 99) or a high ace (AQ, AJs). It's rare but not impossible. Sometimes people surprise you.

TheBad · #6 09-09-2007, 11:27 AM

Yeah, he surprised me with A7o [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I was just wondering what to do after the limp-3-bet.

Jaran · #7 09-09-2007, 05:02 PM

I don't raise KJo after two limpers, especially out of the blinds. As played, I bet the river, and am planning on calling agianst this player.

-J

Xylocain · #8 09-09-2007, 05:14 PM

:g:

Pf just complete, not close.

flop is fine, if if Vil had been OOP you could have open folded because it would have been a tarp 95% of the time.

Turn fine

River, c/c expecting to loose ot Ax or 99 bluffing >95% and he will bet when you check that ace.

In retrospect the LRR is a how-dare-you-raise-mah-when-I-limp given the flop check and the turn call (which is a terrible Vil beeing UI 99% of the time). He made his hand on river, just pay off and get on with it.