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Old 09-08-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default bottom two facing push

no reads, multi-tabling

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($3.98)
MP ($13.50)
CO ($10.96)
Button ($6.27)
Hero ($11.31)
BB ($7.28)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.05, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.2</font>, BB calls $0.20, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $3.93</font>, MP folds, Button folds, Hero??
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: bottom two facing push

If you cant make reads while multitabling, play less tables

snapcall
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: bottom two facing push

You have two pair. Call.
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: bottom two facing push

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If you cant make reads while multitabling, play less tables

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I agree, I never multi-table, im just trying it for once.
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: bottom two facing push

fold?
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Old 09-08-2007, 07:08 PM
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explainations for either decision please, anyone?
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Old 09-08-2007, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: bottom two facing push

Dont see many people shoving/overbetting a hand which you beat or are in very good position vs after limping UTG

unless i know that he could make this with weaker hands Id probably muck
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Old 09-08-2007, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: bottom two facing push

9T, J8, or J7 are the only hands that have you dominated at this point. I'm calling that flop raise, whether he is all-in or not, unless of course he is not very aggressive post-flop.
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Old 09-08-2007, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: bottom two facing push

That is a gross overbet, which means that it's 99% likely he doesn't want you to call. Think about it -- would he do that with a set? A straight? I don't think so, especially because he has no idea you have 2 pair. (Occasional villians do overbet with monsters, but that's why reads are so important...most do it with air or a draw)

Villian likely has pair with a straight draw or a flush draw. You may have been beat on this particular hand, but it's a snap call without a read that says he does this with a monster.

Edited for sucking at grammar...
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Old 09-08-2007, 07:56 PM
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call.. if you're going to play 78o out of position against that many opponents two pair is about as good as its gonna get.

How tight/loose is the bb?
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