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Old 09-07-2007, 07:02 PM
Daniel LeClaire Daniel LeClaire is offline
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Default 50NL: AA Facing Donkbet Paired Board

Just sat at the table so no reads.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $47.40
BB: $10.00
UTG: $19.50
MP: $11.55
Hero (CO): $49.25
BTN: $27.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt A A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $2.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($5.50) 8 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $3.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.50</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $33.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?</font>
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Old 09-07-2007, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: AA Facing Donkbet Paired Board

im still getting it in readless
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Old 09-07-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: AA Facing Donkbet Paired Board

What range do we give villain? I'd like to stove it to convince me about the merits of the push.

I made something like this: is this reasonable?

Board: 8c 8s 7c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 58.100% 57.21% 00.89% 30586 474.00 { AdAs }
Hand 1: 41.900% 41.01% 00.89% 21926 474.00 { JJ+, 88-77, AcKc, AcQc, AcJc, A8s, JcTc, T9s, 98s, 87s, T9o, 98o }
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Old 09-07-2007, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: AA Facing Donkbet Paired Board

i cant for the life of me think of a hand that plays this way. in other words, what are we hoping villian turns over? FD?
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Old 09-07-2007, 08:58 PM
Daniel LeClaire Daniel LeClaire is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: AA Facing Donkbet Paired Board

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What range do we give villain? I'd like to stove it to convince me about the merits of the push.

I made something like this: is this reasonable?

Board: 8c 8s 7c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 58.100% 57.21% 00.89% 30586 474.00 { AdAs }
Hand 1: 41.900% 41.01% 00.89% 21926 474.00 { JJ+, 88-77, AcKc, AcQc, AcJc, A8s, JcTc, T9s, 98s, 87s, T9o, 98o }

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There are probably a ton of hands you could add. All pairs, broadway/8s, more flush draws, some random air.
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:00 PM
DonkeyOnTilt DonkeyOnTilt is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: AA Facing Donkbet Paired Board

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i cant for the life of me think of a hand that plays this way. in other words, what are we hoping villian turns over? FD?

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I don't know about Full Tilt, but at PS 50nl villian can have 99+ here a lot.
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: AA Facing Donkbet Paired Board

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What range do we give villain? I'd like to stove it to convince me about the merits of the push.

I made something like this: is this reasonable?

Board: 8c 8s 7c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 58.100% 57.21% 00.89% 30586 474.00 { AdAs }
Hand 1: 41.900% 41.01% 00.89% 21926 474.00 { JJ+, 88-77, AcKc, AcQc, AcJc, A8s, JcTc, T9s, 98s, 87s, T9o, 98o }

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There are probably a ton of hands you could add. All pairs, broadway/8s, more flush draws, some random air.

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Well he did b/3b flop... I mean is he a readless villain or a retard?
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:46 PM
Daniel LeClaire Daniel LeClaire is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: AA Facing Donkbet Paired Board

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Well he did b/3b flop... I mean is he a readless villain or a retard?

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I just think your range could be a little bigger. In general I think people give way too tight a range when using pokerstove.

I think some hands like 55, 66, K8s, Q8s, J8s, A7s, A/xc, is definitely in his range, and probably even more hands than that.
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: AA Facing Donkbet Paired Board

Am I the only one who would fold on this spot?
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:07 PM
Daniel LeClaire Daniel LeClaire is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: AA Facing Donkbet Paired Board

Well, I think there a too many hands I'm ahead of here to fold. Plus most guys won't play a strong hand this fast.

Results:
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $47.40
BB: $10.00
UTG: $19.50
MP: $11.55
Hero (CO): $49.25
BTN: $27.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt A A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $2.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($5.50) 8 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $3.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.50</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $33.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $47.00</font>, SB calls all-in for $11.65
Uncalled bet of $1.85 returned to Hero

Turn: ($95.80) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($95.80) 5 (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $95.80

[i]SB had 7 A
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