NL25 Party; Top pair becomes 2 pair on river ...

[powderman]

Villain is 26/21 over 150 or so hands and fairly aggressive.
I don't think there's much value in raising river right?
Thoughts on the other streets?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $29.56
BB: $27.06
UTG: $22.60
Hero (CO): $24.05
BTN: $24.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $0.90, BB folds

Flop: ($2.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $1.75</font>, Hero calls $1.75

River: ($5.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $4.00</font>, Hero calls $4.00

Pot Size: $13.75 ($0.68 Rake)

[mookboi]

Cbet flop.
This changes everything. As played, I raise river. If Cbet flop &amp; he call &amp; check on turn, I check behind, he bets river, I raise. Same result I guess.

[Spurious]

bet the flop
as played, i might raise the turn and hope to take it down right here
river is close between calling and raise/folding.

I think your biggest mistake was to check the flop.

[powderman]

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Cbet flop.
This changes everything. As played, I raise river. If Cbet flop &amp; he call &amp; check on turn, I check behind, he bets river, I raise. Same result I guess.

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What hands is he likely to call a flop c-bet with that I can beat?
I guess the river could be raised but I wasn't sure.

[mookboi]

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What hands is he likely to call a flop c-bet with that I can beat?

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Who cares, our hand is weak, we don't know if homeboy got an ace, and we definitely don't want him to improve to 2 pair or a straight with some garbage. If he calls, he is saying "Hm, okay, I got yer ace beat I think," and this is why we plan to check behind on turn hoping to improve on river, or call a weaksauce bet.

[ama0330]

I like the flop check. I begrudginly call the river, but I may also consider raising the turn for protection.

[powderman]

I just think that when a straightforward fairly aggressive player checks in this situation he's [either going for a C/R which I have to fold to, or has nothing at all] most of the time.

[Jimmayjames]

Flop check is a long-term loss for you. C-bet NO MATTER WHAT YOU HIT! Aggression usually wins pots. Also, with his tight-aggressive play, you may get a fold. I'm thinking that he either hit the jack, hit middle/bottom pair on the flop, or he caught the flush draw, and made it on the river. Either way, if I'm putting any money in on the river, it's a call.

[traz]

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Flop check is a long-term loss for you. C-bet NO MATTER WHAT YOU HIT! Aggression usually wins pots. Also, with his tight-aggressive play, you may get a fold. I'm thinking that he either hit the jack, hit middle/bottom pair on the flop, or he caught the flush draw, and made it on the river. Either way, if I'm putting any money in on the river, it's a call.

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You sound like a TV commentator

[powderman]

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Flop check is a long-term loss for you. C-bet NO MATTER WHAT YOU HIT! Aggression usually wins pots. Also, with his tight-aggressive play, you may get a fold. I'm thinking that he either hit the jack, hit middle/bottom pair on the flop, or he caught the flush draw, and made it on the river. Either way, if I'm putting any money in on the river, it's a call.

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This post makes no sense to me.