free showdown play gone bad

[Oink]

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BTW, your line in this hand is very nice when you have KT

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Wow, I couldnt disagree more. Care to elaborate?

[Guy McSucker]

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Dont free SD raise if you cant fold to a 3-bet. So dont do it if you have outs. Check out Stox book. There is a good discussion of when to FSD raise. A summary:

- Dont FSD raise if you cant fold to a 3-bet

- Dont FSD raise if you cant fold a better hand

- Dont FSD raise if villain is likely to continue his bluff on the river.

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A more succinct if slightly less helpful summary:

- Don't FSD raise.

It's really very very rare that a good FSDR spot comes up.

[jba]

free means double price?

[sweetjazz]

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BTW, your line in this hand is very nice when you have KT

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Wow, I couldnt disagree more. Care to elaborate?

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Meh, it is just wrong. I was thinking more from playing HU, where you often can get 5+ BB in on the turn and river with this line. In this spot I think it's probably just best to raise and cap the flop and hope KK and AA keep leading into you (expecting to get more action out of sets pretty reliably).

[Gurravasa]

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Dont free SD raise if you cant fold to a 3-bet. So dont do it if you have outs. Check out Stox book. There is a good discussion of when to FSD raise. A summary:

- Dont FSD raise if you cant fold to a 3-bet

- Dont FSD raise if you cant fold a better hand

- Dont FSD raise if villain is likely to continue his bluff on the river.

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A more succinct if slightly less helpful summary:

- Don't FSD raise.

It's really very very rare that a good FSDR spot comes up.

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I very rarely make the FSDR since noone at my tables seems to fold to a raise on turn anyway but 3-barrel air a lot. In this hand I think it's stupid since you rather raise when you hit your draw on river.