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Old 09-06-2007, 02:01 PM
Chicos75 Chicos75 is offline
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Default Turned Broadway. Call or Raise the River?

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button (t3285)
SB (t1090)
BB (t3016)
UTG (t1734)
MP1 (t5425)
MP2 (t4920)
Hero (t2075)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t200, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t100.

Flop: (t650) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t650) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t100</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, BB calls t200.

River: (t1250) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t400</font>, Hero ???
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:34 PM
Pokerfarian Pokerfarian is offline
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Default Re: Turned Broadway. Call or Raise the River?

Turn raise should be a lot more...the pot is 850 after your call so making it 200 more is meh...500 more &amp; you can just get AI on river no matter what
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: Turned Broadway. Call or Raise the River?

i dont mind the small raise so much, but you have to make it knowing that you are pushing the river really no matter what it is. Go broke son.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: Turned Broadway. Call or Raise the River?

Raise turn more, raise river, I think this is just a lone K way more often than anything that beats you...most 2 pair+ hands on the turn would 3bet to defend against draws.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Turned Broadway. Call or Raise the River?

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...most 2 pair+ hands on the turn would 3bet to defend against draws.

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this is a key point here. wish I had thought of it.
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Old 09-06-2007, 05:08 PM
JoeyJoJo Shabadu JoeyJoJo Shabadu is offline
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Default Re: Turned Broadway. Call or Raise the River?

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Turn raise should be a lot more...the pot is 850 after your call so making it 200 more is meh...

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Yep... and 2 pair gets it all in on the turn quite often.
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Old 09-06-2007, 05:11 PM
Chicos75 Chicos75 is offline
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Default Re: Turned Broadway. Call or Raise the River?

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...most 2 pair+ hands on the turn would 3bet to defend against draws.

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this is a key point here. wish I had thought of it.

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Me too [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 09-06-2007, 05:22 PM
Merek007 Merek007 is offline
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Default Re: Turned Broadway. Call or Raise the River?

THe check on the flop could be anything, but the turn doesnt' look like trips, more Kx, draw or 2 pr. If KJ KT he bets the flop, so I don;t see what you are behind except maybe K5. Some people will play trips like this but not often.

If we don't think he has 2 pr+ is he calling a push w Kx? Maybe a smaller value bet will be called more often. A read would help but we don't have it.
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