Good hand, but check/call this river?

BrassMonkey · #1 09-06-2007, 01:29 PM

Against a typical decent but unspectacular TAG, do you ever check/call this river? If you're raised, do you usually fold? My guess is that most of you will say "no" to the first question and "yes" to the second. Am I right?

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Turn: (4.16 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (6.16 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.16 BB

jba · #2 09-06-2007, 01:37 PM

I wouldn't check and I wouldn't fold, I think you played this fine.

TheOffice · #3 09-06-2007, 01:39 PM

NH IMO. Nothing to be done differently here, or I have some serious misunderstanding of how to play this game.

Tryptamean · #4 09-06-2007, 01:43 PM

I never fold this. If he has Jx, he is a donk. If he has a flush, he is a donk. If he is bluffing, he is a donk. If he is value-raising a worse hand, he is a donk. If he has 88, then he played the hand well.

So, I guess you are hoping that he played the hand poorly and still has a worse hand, but I think you'll still be good often enough to call.

Backstabr · #5 09-06-2007, 01:44 PM

I bet here for sure, and make a crying call. I think bet/fold is for times when we have a strong read.

However, after thinking about it for a while, I think most of the hands that will call a river bet will bet if checked to. Except maybe Ax. If he peeled the flop loose, he may bluff the river with Ks or Qs.

If he has a moderate to high river AF, I think after consideration that a river check/call has real merit.

Gurravasa · #6 09-06-2007, 01:46 PM

I never c/c or b/f this river I b/c and he shows A8.