Star 3+r: TT Spot

[NU Star]

Villian raise once about 40 hands ago. Standard 3x raise. He is 13.3/8.1 over 125 hands. ATS is 4/18 but he missed his last 6 chances or so against my blinds.

PokerStars Game #11899217810: Tournament #59855106, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXII (8000/16000) - 2007/09/06 - 01:58:26 (ET)
Table '59855106 156' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Vingthor (473334 in chips)
Seat 2: sk33 (243311 in chips)
Seat 3: RaveDaddy (135488 in chips)
Seat 4: jbonefish (464317 in chips)
Seat 5: 7FootSurfer (236279 in chips)
Seat 6: dbwinnin (632394 in chips)
Seat 7: nevooo (181300 in chips)
Seat 8: NU Starnes (344834 in chips)
Seat 9: glk456 (222904 in chips)
Vingthor: posts the ante 1600
sk33: posts the ante 1600
RaveDaddy: posts the ante 1600
jbonefish: posts the ante 1600
7FootSurfer: posts the ante 1600
dbwinnin: posts the ante 1600
nevooo: posts the ante 1600
NU Starnes: posts the ante 1600
glk456: posts the ante 1600
glk456: posts small blind 8000
Vingthor: posts big blind 16000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NU Starnes [Tc Th]
sk33: folds
RaveDaddy: folds
jbonefish: folds
7FootSurfer: folds
dbwinnin: folds
nevooo: raises 64000 to 80000
NU Starnes: ???

[erc007]

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Villian raise once about 40 hands ago. Standard 3x raise. He is 13.3/8.1 over 125 hands. ATS is 4/18 but he missed his last 6 chances or so against my blinds.

PokerStars Game #11899217810: Tournament #59855106, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXII (8000/16000) - 2007/09/06 - 01:58:26 (ET)
Table '59855106 156' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Vingthor (473334 in chips)
Seat 2: sk33 (243311 in chips)
Seat 3: RaveDaddy (135488 in chips)
Seat 4: jbonefish (464317 in chips)
Seat 5: 7FootSurfer (236279 in chips)
Seat 6: dbwinnin (632394 in chips)
Seat 7: nevooo (181300 in chips)
Seat 8: NU Starnes (344834 in chips)
Seat 9: glk456 (222904 in chips)
Vingthor: posts the ante 1600
sk33: posts the ante 1600
RaveDaddy: posts the ante 1600
jbonefish: posts the ante 1600
7FootSurfer: posts the ante 1600
dbwinnin: posts the ante 1600
nevooo: posts the ante 1600
NU Starnes: posts the ante 1600
glk456: posts the ante 1600
glk456: posts small blind 8000
Vingthor: posts big blind 16000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NU Starnes [Tc Th]
sk33: folds
RaveDaddy: folds
jbonefish: folds
7FootSurfer: folds
dbwinnin: folds
nevooo: raises 64000 to 80000
NU Starnes: ???

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It's so hard to put people on a reliable range when they do stuff like this (open for 5x in LP for almost 1/2 their stack.)
It's def a hand that doesn't mind being RR'd...but dosen't want to play/doesn't play well after the flop. Depends on the player...could be "i have 66 and i want the blinds"..."or i have JJ/AK and i'll have no clue what to do when i'm called postflop."

Obv u have no FE if you shove here, so it comes down to whether or not u include med PP's in his range. If you do, then this is a shove...u have 53% equity against a range of 66-QQ; AQs+;AQo+...so you'd be racing for 180K with 40K dead money in the pot.

[NU Star]

Yeah, taking AA and KK out of his likely range would definitely been a good idea while I was running the numbers. As it was, I figured it was close and opted to fold this late in the tournament, but I felt like a nit.

[AC-Cobra]

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Yeah, taking AA and KK out of his likely range would definitely been a good idea while I was running the numbers. As it was, I figured it was close and opted to fold this late in the tournament, but I felt like a nit.

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This does feel very nitty but its not actually horrendously bad. Id probably close my eyes and shove.

[KidSensation]

I don't mind the fold here. I like erc's reasoning when he says JJ/AK...as those were the exact two hands I was thinking of. However, if you think he does this with mid PP's than get it in here...but a fold isn't bad.

[DumbHick]

I would shove here %100 of the time.