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Old 09-05-2007, 10:33 PM
HOWMANY HOWMANY is offline
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Default I had the whole thing planned out then didn\'t follow the plan

20/40 5 handed game. Villain is Gary again. This spot is much easier against a moron, I simply bet turn and check river. I feel I play pretty [censored] when I play 20 so I generally opt to hide in a NL game while waiting for 40 or whatever, but this game was shorthanded with Gary and I like playing short with people who play spazzy like me because it's fun, so I sat.

Fold to Gary who raises CO, I 3bet 88 on button, he calls

Flop: A22r
Gary c/c

Turn: 9 putting two diamonds
check/check and I decide that I'm folding if he bets the river because I am obviously checking to make sure 1 bet goes in at most

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Gary bets I call like a moron

Take into consideration that we are both fully aware that his flop call is scary to me if I don't have an A. On the other hand we also must consider that we both know neither of us ever folds anything against the other even though we both try to make it happen anyway.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: I had the whole thing planned out then didn\'t follow the plan

how often do you check behind on turns against him, i would guess close to never - so i'd fold the river, assuming he wanted to c/r the turn
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: I had the whole thing planned out then didn\'t follow the plan

This hand really seems to be player dependant, but wouldn't a turn better be much better unless you are trying to induce a river blufff
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Old 09-06-2007, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: I had the whole thing planned out then didn\'t follow the plan

kinda close but i'd probably give it up on the river. The ranges below are pretty damn wide but you said the guy's a spazz...

Hand 0: 79.442% 79.19% 00.25% 936 3.00 { 44+, A2s+, KQs, A2o+, KQo }
Hand 1: 20.558% 20.30% 00.25% 240 3.00 { 88 }
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:48 AM
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Default Re: I had the whole thing planned out then didn\'t follow the plan

Might want to widen that range just a bit more. He's a real spazz!
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:09 AM
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kinda close but i'd probably give it up on the river. The ranges below are pretty damn wide but you said the guy's a spazz...

Hand 0: 79.442% 79.19% 00.25% 936 3.00 { 44+, A2s+, KQs, A2o+, KQo }
Hand 1: 20.558% 20.30% 00.25% 240 3.00 { 88 }

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Add JTo+/QTo+/J8s+/Q8s+/K6s+/K9o+/sooted connectors 76s+/1 gappers 97s+ is probably close to his preflop range. I don't know which of these he is peeling flop with. Since he knows I can 3bet here with 65s he should peel widely as well but this is a real boring flop so I'd guess he doesn't peel as often.
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:31 AM
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What the hell. Did you find out his online name and do some datamining on him? That range is scarilly accurate.
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:38 AM
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I installed a pattern mapper into your brain that time we played 3 handed with Aidan. Now you know why I run so good against you all the time.
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:54 AM
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I'm serious i think you nailed the range identical. Thats so sick. Wtf do you study his game that hard. Gary better start studying your ranges more. Right now he just says howmany's range from the cutoff is he raises with most hands that are anywhere near each other or suited.
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Old 09-06-2007, 12:34 PM
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I'm serious i think you nailed the range identical. Thats so sick. Wtf do you study his game that hard. Gary better start studying your ranges more. Right now he just says howmany's range from the cutoff is he raises with most hands that are anywhere near each other or suited.

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Huh? howmany just quoted a standard CO opening range. The stove calc I put in was obv for his range after the river bet. If the guy does any thinking during the hand then I doubt his range is *that* much wider.
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