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09-05-2007, 09:04 PM
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$11 20k Guranteed on Stars. Overs and a gutshot facing min-raise.
This is my second hand at this table as I got moved right after I tripled up. Maybe I am just being results oriented but is this a pretty standard shove?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) UPF Handconverter MP3 (t3585) CO (t14825) Button (t8990) SB (t19009) BB (t3190) UTG (t4595) UTG+1 (t6930) Hero (t9660) MP2 (t18441) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1200</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t1200, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>. Flop: (t2600) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t2200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t4400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t8435 
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#2
09-05-2007, 10:12 PM
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Re: $11 20k Guranteed on Stars. Overs and a gutshot facing min-raise.
C bet less fold to raise.
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#3
09-05-2007, 10:15 PM
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Re: $11 20k Guranteed on Stars. Overs and a gutshot facing min-raise.
yeah i mean u have zero fold equity. he's mini raising when he is extremely pot committed. 999??
yeah the pot size bet is bad. i assume you only end up with 7 outs. but the big bet basically committed you.
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#4
09-06-2007, 12:51 AM
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Re: $11 20k Guranteed on Stars. Overs and a gutshot facing min-raise.
I am curious to see what ranges you think this guy has, plus I don't understand how I only have seven outs. I have two overs to the board (6) a gutshot, (10), plus a backdoor flush draw, which I think makes the total 11.5 outs. Plus I do think I have some FE.
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#5
09-06-2007, 01:04 AM
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Re: $11 20k Guranteed on Stars. Overs and a gutshot facing min-raise.
When he calls, he has a K, Q, or T quite often so you have to cut down on your outs.
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#6
09-06-2007, 01:06 AM
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Re: $11 20k Guranteed on Stars. Overs and a gutshot facing min-raise.
11.5 is the most optimistic scenario. when he has a flush draw you are in very bad shape. he might have JK. or something reducing your outs.
it might be wrong to say you have 7 outs buts it also wrong to say you have 11.5. the truth though is closer to 7 because against certain hands your out are like 2 hes getting like 4 to 1 call your bet i really dont think you have fold equity. i doubt the min raise is weak here considering he min raised a full pot bet where he knows you probably are not foldign with all the chips you have invested.
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