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Am I supposed to bet this?
BB seems like he's a little tilty, I was surprised he didn't raise the turn.
Dealt to Hero [2d Ac] amuth: folds Himalaia: folds David145: folds Hero: raises $10 to $20 BB: calls $10 *** FLOP *** [Ad 9d 5h] Hero: bets $10 BB: calls $10 *** TURN *** [Ad 9d 5h] [8c] Hero: bets $20 BB: calls $20 *** RIVER *** [Ad 9d 5h 8c] [6d] |
#2
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Re: Am I supposed to bet this?
How tilty is tilty? Would you fold a 9 here vs you?
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#3
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Re: Am I supposed to bet this?
I think he's calling non-aces maybe 60% of the time.
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#4
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Re: Am I supposed to bet this?
Hmmm so he will call with worse 60%, is he the type to donk here with a str8 or c/r? if he had 2pair would he donk? Situations like this are very opponent dependant. But I usually send a bet out, sometimes calling a raise.
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Re: Am I supposed to bet this?
bet that [censored].
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#6
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Re: Am I supposed to bet this?
Betting A2 on this river is almost same as betting K9. I would bet-call both against most players. And I would always bet against players I knew likes to bluffraise river. I think bet-folding is almost always a misstake.
Im not sure if Im missing something here. Arent we talking about a blindbattle? SB raises and BB calls? Then I cant see why BB should ever fold a decent pair here. Flopbet means nothing, turnbet could be a little bit of everything and riverbet just a small hope we will fold that not-so-good-pair that he now probably put us on. There are players against who I would call KQ on this river when they fire the 3rd time. |
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Re: Am I supposed to bet this?
Kiddo, I think you may be right. In fact, when I'm on top of my value-betting game, I don't even think about this one. However, I'm getting a little gun shy lately. What was going through my head is:
1) he didn't reraise PF which up til now has meant he's got no ace and both cards are not broadway. He has no PP. 2) He probably doesn't have the flush, as I can't really imagine him not raising a FD on the flop, but who knows. 3) This makes his hand range all those numbers between 4 and ten, as well as possibly one of those numbers coupled with a broadway card. 4) He'll bluff this river some %age anyway. Conclusion: I'm probably behind to his non-folding range and given the increased lieklyhood of bluffing when I check compared to when I bet, a check is preferential here. Are these thoughts valid? I ended up checking, but I'm not telling you whether or not I won this hand as it is the situation which probably came up 2 or 3 times in the past week that I'm questioning. |
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Re: Am I supposed to bet this?
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I think he's calling non-aces maybe 60% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] if this is the case, then a bet here is your best move. the difficulty arises when you determine how to play versus a raise i.e. is he capable of bluff-raising the river? against a possible tilter, and because this is a BvB battle, I'd bet-call. |
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Re: Am I supposed to bet this?
Check-call induces a bluff. This means extra equity from some hands he would otherwise fold. Add up the bet we save when he is really ahead, and I think check-call is correct here.
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Re: Am I supposed to bet this?
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Check-call induces a bluff. This means extra equity from some hands he would otherwise fold. Add up the bet we save when he is really ahead, and I think check-call is correct here. [/ QUOTE ] wtf is he supposed to bluff with |
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