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Old 09-03-2007, 09:58 PM
toucan toucan is offline
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Default Flop bottom two deep stacked on drawy board

Villain is 21/15/2.73 over 202 hands and seems to know what he's doing.

Interested in what people think the best line to take in this hand is given we're 200ish bb deep. I think I should have bet more on the flop for a start.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $167.13
BB: $105.35
UTG: $91.52
Hero (MP): $320.86
CO: $212.88
BTN: $20.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, CO calls $4.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $18.00</font>

Pot Size: $33.50
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Old 09-03-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: Flop bottom two deep stacked on drawy board

call flop raise, b/f most turns?

ugh, really crappy spot to be OOP

(and i guess by "most" i mean any non-5 non-6)
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: Flop bottom two deep stacked on drawy board

if ur calling and b/f the turn, what do u do on scary turn card like the 7diamonds, c/f? i don't really know what do. not a big fan of a flop 3 bet but i trhink its the best option,
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: Flop bottom two deep stacked on drawy board

flop 3 bet sucks because everything worse folds and now the pot is huge and were still OOP.
i mean are we really going to b/3b/FOLD if villain shoves over the 3bet?
this is a spot where you're pretty [censored] no matter what you do vs a solid aggro villain
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: Flop bottom two deep stacked on drawy board

Thanks cs3, I agree with you here. To me raising again on the flop pretty much turns our hand into a bluff as the only desirable outcome is that villain folds; if he pushes i think we have to fold and if he calls we have an inflate pot OOP with little clue where we are in the hand (as you said).

So I called and the turn was the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] which is obv pretty gross. I checked (betting here is essentially a bluff now?), he bet $30 and i folded. Still feels like weak play, but i don't see an alternative that i like.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: Flop bottom two deep stacked on drawy board

I would reraise to 55. If he just calls I'd push the turn as long as it wasn't a diamond, 7, 8 or 9. I just don't see how else you could play it. If he would reraise your reraise then I could make an argument for a fold. 6 Handed bottom two is good. He would make that same raise with TT or any over pair as well as A9.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: Flop bottom two deep stacked on drawy board

I like a stop and go. Call the raise and lead the turn for $30
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