Dan Harrington. Justified stiff?

[selurah]

Awesome yet another thread where a few pathetic, whining ass dealers can come on here and bitch and cry about how bad they have it.

[ZeeJustin]

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Now that you bring up the mcdonalds example, I have changed my mind. That example has so little do to with what I said and bears so little relationship to anything of this universe that it must be the analogy which is destined to change my mind...In light of the McDonalds example, and ONLY because of the mcdonalds example, I have changed my mind. Do not tip the dealers...otherwise you will be forced to tip 10$ at Mcdonalds using the same logic, and we simply cannot allow this.

sheets

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Daryn makes a good point (even if it's mostly unintentional). It would be better to give the money to charity rather than someone who is already overpaid and/or doesn't deserve it (I am NOT saying that is the case, as I haven't looked at the numbers, but that seems to be the consensus)

I hate it when poker tournaments and/or restaurants take advantage of the fact that tip is already added, and try to guilt people into tipping double what they would tip somewhere where it is not already included.

[Rampage_Jackson]

I rarely tip large in a tournament... I mean we are already paying rake for christ sake.

[Micturition Man]

We (meaning people who win tourneys) should really start a trend of not-tipping.

Basically every year the juice gets higher and higher, yet people keep tipping the same. It's practically a scam.

If people just stop tipping then the casinos will be forced to directly give the dealers fair compensation, and poker players can just pay the juice and be done with it.

[Wolverine]

The American tipping culture is stupid. Why can't employers pay their staff properly and staff do the job they're paid for? Works fine everywhere else.

[Alobar]

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You also dont have to tip at hotel restaurants and other places where they add 15 % "for your convenience" but people do anyway...If a person does a good job would it really kill you to throw a few bucks more?

I mean cmon...I know that not tipping makes a statement against the rake or whatever but you cash for $6753834760948394534 would it really hurt u that much to throw the dealers some more money, consdeirng the abuse they put up with? Yeah you dont HAVE to and no one should tell you you should but....gee whiz you make a million dollars playing poker for gods sake and these dealers have had to sit there breathing in god knows what diseases and getting yelled at for things that arent their fault in 317263 different languages.

bah...whatever dont listen to me i am obv a huge softee.


sheets

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So instead of taking 3%, they take 10% does your attitude still hold? What if they take 75%? are you still tipping because would it really kill you to give a few bucks more?

[shaniac]

I don't have an opinion on the tournament-staff tipping thing--I'd personally have left a little extra but I don't think it's unreasonable not to--but I must say tipping the security guards a dollar each is definitely lamer than tipping them nothing,

[shaniac]

Also, it's a little weird/absurd to me that poker players, who are so thoroughly spendthrift/profligate in all aspects of life, suddenly become prudent and cost-conscious at the end of a tournament and then begin penny-pinching.

For instance, I'm sure that some of you advocating not tipping in tournaments do tip bouncers at clubs--I see door-guys get $100 just to take customers to the table and much more if they're providing any kind of special treatment. Not only are these employees already grossly overpaid, but you'll never see them again or work with them in any context.

[grabber]

no tip ftw. except for the security a $20 each would have been appropriate

[Jbrochu]

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You also dont have to tip at hotel restaurants and other places where they add 15 % "for your convenience" but people do anyway...

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I never tip when they've already added a tip to the bill. Seriously, even if the service is outstanding and I would have normally left 20% or more had they not already added the 15%.

I figure this makes up for the occasional times they get the 15% out of me when they deserved 0% for the crappy service.