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Old 09-03-2007, 06:54 AM
cooker3 cooker3 is offline
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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $62.25
BB: $25.25
UTG: $33.25
MP: $73.85
hero (CO): $124.10
BTN: $50.00

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 62/21/95 and seems like calling station although he can and is aggressive pf
I am 19/15/7 with 33% steal percentage, not 3 bet him as I can see his calling range been really wide but I have yet to see proof of that</font>

Preflop: hero is dealt A A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $2.00</font>, <font color="red">hero raises to $8.00</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $6.00

Flop: ($16.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">hero bets $15.00</font>, MP calls $15.00

Turn: ($46.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets all-in for $50.85</font>

Pot Size: $97.60

Ugh, such a horrible card. I bet big pf and on flop because he can call a lot. Is the re draw to nut flush draw enough to call? Would he ever be betting the ultimate scare card as a bluff?
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:34 AM
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Default Re: That\'s a card I didn\'t want to see

Call. You'r never drawing dead. I think you will see TT and JJ and maybe QQ with hearts alot.

Plus he can be bluffing.

A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] baby!
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:35 AM
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Default Re: That\'s a card I didn\'t want to see

You're ahead often enough that I think a call is good here.
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Old 09-03-2007, 08:39 AM
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Default Re: That\'s a card I didn\'t want to see

Call here, you got a good redraw. He might got a straight now, but then you still got 9 outs.
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Old 09-03-2007, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: That\'s a card I didn\'t want to see

call is good.
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Old 09-03-2007, 09:16 AM
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The fact that you have the Ah is important, not only because of your flush draw but also because it means he didnt have the nut flush draw on the flop. You say he's a calling station, does that mean he'd call such a big pre-flop re-raise with KQs?

Im pretty sure he doesnt have a set. If he check-called the flop with a set he wouldnt just push the turn like that.

If he has 1010 or JJ with a heart it means that he has an overpair as well as a straight and a flush draw. He might make this move with that hand. He could also have QQ w a heart as well as a made flush if you think he'll call PF re-raises with K high hands.

You can beat several hands in his range and you got outs regardless of what he has. I'd call in your spot for sure.
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Old 09-03-2007, 09:26 AM
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The fact that you have the Ah is important, not only because of your flush draw but also because it means he didnt have the nut flush draw on the flop. You say he's a calling station, does that mean he'd call such a big pre-flop re-raise with KQs?


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Yeah I definately think he could call with KQs, as I said in OP I have not seen him turn over anything in relation to calling 3 bets, it's just my general feel of him from watching him, I think JTs may not even be too far a stretch for a calling range
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Old 09-03-2007, 09:42 AM
Sharagoz Sharagoz is offline
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Default Re: That\'s a card I didn\'t want to see

If J10s is in his range, then so is KJh and QJh.

Could somebody run a simulation with this range? I dont have the tools..
10x10h,JxJh,QxQh,J10s,QJh,KQh
(I dont have KK or a set in his range because of his line so far).

I think you still have the equity to call against this range, but Im not sure.
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Old 09-03-2007, 10:00 AM
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Easy call.
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:28 AM
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I did the simulation for the range I posted above.
You got 57,5 % equity against that range so its an extremly clear call.

Even if you add 22,88,99 to his range you still got 45% equity, so there's no doubt folding is a big mistake.
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