Fold AA on paired board?

Gurravasa · #1 09-03-2007, 04:29 AM

Reads on villain is that he defends BB with 53o and calls flops and turns with bottom pair. He's 38/15/1.5 over 120 hands. 34 WTSD and 52.5 W$ASD.

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB 3-bets, CO folds, Hero caps, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (13SB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, SB folds, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero...

H20 · #2 09-03-2007, 05:09 AM

I would call down here, he could be pushing overpair or flushdraw

Oink · #3 09-03-2007, 05:21 AM

Gvasa. Folding here without a VERY good read will have you run over in that game.

BTW piss of from party. Thats MY site! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Carmine · #4 09-03-2007, 07:32 AM

Is it just me or do folding(never) and calling both feel really weak. He has sane PFR stats so how much do we consider 33/55 and with one TT left.

If I lose more than the 2BB by just calling down I'm not going to think I played the hand badly. Is that bad poker on my part?

sharpie · #5 09-03-2007, 07:35 AM

I thank him for saving me money as I would've raised the turn had he bet. Very easy calldown.

Gurravasa · #6 09-03-2007, 07:37 AM

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Gvasa. Folding here without a VERY good read will have you run over in that game.

BTW piss of from party. Thats MY site! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Well I wasn't even thinking of folding but since I lost this hand I wanted to see if anyone could find a fold here.

milesdyson · #7 09-03-2007, 08:25 PM

i might find a check on the turn.

jstill · #8 09-03-2007, 08:32 PM

r u serious miles? i bet calldown and feel great... we lose to TT and thats like it, i expect this villain to have QQ KK far more often than TT\

folding obviously not, I take it u were planning on raise calling down the turn if he didnt screwplay gvasa?

milesdyson · #9 09-03-2007, 08:40 PM

the way i get joy out of poker involves more than just making $. in this case, i discount overpairs a lot when he makes this ridiculous looking turn check, and while there might be value in betting the turn, i'd gleefully give away that cash to catch him the time he has TT.

this play is the new "i-raised-preflop-and-oops-lol-i-checked-behind-top-set," just now it's "oh-shit-i-can't-possibly-be-beaten-so-why-on-earth-would-i-bet-my-hand?"

Gurravasa · #10 09-04-2007, 06:26 AM

Yeah I was planning to raise turn if he'd bet.

A turn check would be great in this hand since he had TT, and that strange check from him should sound the alarms that he has something extraordinary. It's a tough check to do at the table with AA and that board thou. When he c/r turn I'm pretty sure i'm dead but can't discount overpairs enough to fold.