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Old 09-01-2007, 10:01 AM
mackthefork mackthefork is offline
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If you put SS on QQ-66,ATs-A6s,QTs+,JTs,ATo-A9o,QJo,JTo
and big stack on QQ-77,A9s,JTs then you win about 25% of the time, you included no reads so I don't know how accurate these ranges are.

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Old 09-01-2007, 11:33 AM
badbeatLOL badbeatLOL is offline
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Default Re: JJ

thanks guys

the JJ stackoff felt terrible right after it happened, but i am coming from limit, we don't fold :-)


on QQ my thoughts were if he has me beat hes not folding anyway, if i have him beat he will fold immediately to my flopbet. so i tried to give him a chance to bluff for the pot while drawing healthy when behind. wrong thought process?

on the 55 hand, i get 4:1 immediate odds closing the action, with 4 players involved i will stack at least one when i hit, still not enough to call for setvalue?
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: JJ

You need to be winning about 12 times your preflop call so if theres $32 in the pot, and it's $8 to call, then you need about $64 behind after you called, and the other guys to be able to have enough to pay your whole stack worth, this is about break even point provided you always manage to get one in postflop when you hit.

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Old 09-01-2007, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 lot of hands

hand 1: shove river

hand:2 C/F on flop - C/F on turn, unless he bets really small, then C/C (no need to get fancy here on the flop)

hand 3: easy fold - what do you beat here other than TT (who also has an OESD to your gutshot)

hand 4: bet flop around $9.50 - fold to a RR.

hand 5: I think this looks alright, except I would re-raise his river bet. I really don't see a flush betting $3 into a $28 pot when you just called his turn RR.

hand 6: bet strong on the flop, make it $11 or so, call a shove.

hand 7: again, stop slow playing your sets. Bet strong on the flop and call a shove.

hand 8: I would prefer a fold PF, but once you're in the pot I think it looks fine
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Old 09-01-2007, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 lot of hands

hand 1, I dont see much value on betting the river, he might have 4s full, and the 8 of diamonds is terrible, it hits every single draw, 67, flushdraws...
Kind of conservative but I probably check the river.
Hand of the set of 3s: its very hard to get rid of a set, but his line in this hand seems awfully strong.
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Old 09-01-2007, 04:35 PM
badbeatLOL badbeatLOL is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 lot of hands

in hand 1 we have aces :-) we beat every "fours full"

and i felt the same about the 3's hand but i think there is not much i can do about it...
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