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Old 09-01-2007, 10:56 AM
klezmaniac klezmaniac is offline
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Lying about the hand was fine.

Slowrolling then laughing was the moron move.

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Agreed.

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Old 09-01-2007, 11:54 AM
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Disagree. If some random donk thinks it's fair game to suddenly ask you about your hand in hopes that you will simply announce it to him, then call based on what he thinks is the truth, laughing is fine.

As for the other question, which is regarding the guy potentially leaving because of this, this is the biggest existing poker fallacy out there. Bad players do not leave games if you make fun of them, and they don't play better if you talk strategy at the table. This guy was going to leave or stay based on his own decisions, not your laughter.
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Old 09-01-2007, 02:53 PM
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aquarium tap
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:08 PM
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Disagree. If some random donk thinks it's fair game to suddenly ask you about your hand in hopes that you will simply announce it to him, then call based on what he thinks is the truth, laughing is fine.

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No, private amazement at his foolishness is fine. Laughing is stupid, needlessly aggressive, and lacks class.
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Old 09-01-2007, 04:14 PM
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you are (a) and idiot and (b) play bad.

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too funny. thanks.

I did not slow roll. I immediately tabled my hand.

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No, private amazement at his foolishness is fine. Laughing is stupid, needlessly aggressive, and lacks class.

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I'm gonna agree, to the extent that it mighta been needlessly aggressive. A simple "sorry, I got you there" and laughed with him instead of embarrassing him mighta made for a more pleasant time. But I think I reaped rewards throughout the rest of the session because of this incident. My question was is this a +EV play. I think it was and if he can't take it he shouldn't play.

To the posters that insist poker must be played as if we're all English gentleman at a cricket match: Grow up. One can be friendly, and we all like that, as it makes for a better time, but my sole intent is to take your money. That's the idea. If what I do to do so falls within the rules then I'm within my rights. The hand itself was mundane at best, but I think I played it fine based on my read of moron.
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Old 09-01-2007, 04:29 PM
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Nothing wrong with this at all, it's up to the other player to determine whether or not to believe your statement. The guy believed a random opponent and then called in the hopes of chopping, how is the OP the moron?

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Old 09-01-2007, 04:35 PM
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you are (a) and idiot and (b) play bad.

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First time I've ever agreed with pokerbob on anything. Except I think he was too kind.
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:08 PM
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I'm gonna agree, to the extent that it mighta been needlessly aggressive. A simple "sorry, I got you there" and laughed with him instead of embarrassing him mighta made for a more pleasant time.

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Agreed. Kudos for having the balls to acknowledge criticism.


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But I think I reaped rewards throughout the rest of the session because of this incident.

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How so? Honest question. You implied in your post that the guy was thrown out for his outburst. So you can't have made more money from him. Did others start giving you excessive respect or something?


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To the posters that insist poker must be played as if we're all English gentleman at a cricket match: Grow up. One can be friendly, and we all like that, as it makes for a better time, but my sole intent is to take your money. That's the idea. If what I do to do so falls within the rules then I'm within my rights.

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Yeah, yeah, sure. But just because you're at a poker table doesn't give you a free pass to be a dick. You are still in a public space with other people around. Don't do anything you wouldn't do in a bar, I say.
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Old 09-01-2007, 06:10 PM
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[/ QUOTE ]"... if he can't take it he shouldn't play."

"...my sole intent is to take your money. That's the idea."

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These statements contradict: If your “sole intent “ is to “take his money“, then what difference does it make to you if he shouldn’t play because he “can’t take it.”. The first requirement that must be met to take a person’s money at a poker table - is to get them TO the poker table, not to find reasons why they shouldn’t be at the poker table.

Also, ridiculing a person just because they don’t play cards as well as you do is not evidence of someone that has grown up. It is evidence of the opposite.

But what I really don’t understand is that if you felt the way you do, then why didn’t you take the “moron” up on his invitation and meet him in the parking lot and teach him a lesson or two about growing up? Why are you here whining to us? Perhaps, could it be because he would have kicked your butt? Which begs the question - who really is the moron: The person who doesn’t play poker well, or the wussy that ridicules the play of the person who can kick their butt?
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Old 09-01-2007, 06:59 PM
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One can be friendly, and we all like that, as it makes for a better time, but my sole intent is to take your money. That's the idea. If what I do to do so falls within the rules then I'm within my rights.

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You are playing less than optimum poker and if your intent is to make money, then you should correct it.

Morons and fish play more loosely and give more money away when they are in a good mood. It's as simple as that.
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