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Old 08-31-2007, 12:38 PM
donkeykong2 donkeykong2 is offline
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Default Re: Raised QQ pf. Bet into by a LAG on a J78 board

u wont get reraised here that often, see aj and kj calling. with 2 callers there are likely a lot of bad turn cards for you
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Old 08-31-2007, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Raised QQ pf. Bet into by a LAG on a J78 board

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u wont get reraised here that often, see aj and kj calling. with 2 callers there are likely a lot of bad turn cards for you

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Yeah. AKJT9 are all horrible turn cards for us
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Old 08-31-2007, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Raised QQ pf. Bet into by a LAG on a J78 board

wtf is going on in this thread? some of the advice is downright bad, and when i read something that i think starts to be correct it turns out the resoning is assbackwards.

if we raise this flop and then call a shove were lighting money on fire
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Raised QQ pf. Bet into by a LAG on a J78 board

You're button and they both called from the blinds, so I think you can raise/stack off much more lightly here.

Lag would almost certainly 3-bet 88/JJ and could very well be looking to bet/3-bet all in with JT/J9/98. BB probably has a draw, and if not I doubt either or them are going to be willing to fold JK/JA on such a drawy board.

I like raising and calling a shove.
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Old 08-31-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: Raised QQ pf. Bet into by a LAG on a J78 board

This is how I played the hand. I just smooth called the flop bet because the SB lead AND the other player called. If it was just the SB then surely I am raising the flop. The turn was a blank raised all in.

I lost the hand but I think I playes it ok no? The bet and call on the flop is pretty much what froze me from raising the flop.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $140.30
BB: $143.80
UTG: $106.70
CO: $106.70
Hero (BTN): $98.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, SB calls $3.00, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($10.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $7.00</font>, BB calls $7.00, Hero calls $7.00

Turn: ($31.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $23.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $88.00</font>, SB calls $65.00

River: ($207.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $207.50 ($3 Rake)

SB had 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a full house, Sevens full of Threes) and WON (+$106.00)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Threes) and LOST (-$98.50)
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Old 08-31-2007, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: Raised QQ pf. Bet into by a LAG on a J78 board

im probably just calling the turn too, and folding river if he shoves.
nobody 3 barrel bluffs on dry boards like that, and nobody is value shoving top pair there into the PFR

but youre line isnt bad at all - much better than getting it in on the flop
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Old 08-31-2007, 08:13 PM
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Default Re: Raised QQ pf. Bet into by a LAG on a J78 board

i dont like the way you played it too much, there are just too many bad turn cards for this line. not raising because of bb on the flop is not a good idea too as he likely has a draw while flat calling.
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