bottom set limped pot- ugh, i fold

[yabastid]

$109 20K guarantee on Stars.

First or second hand of tourney so no reads. Villian is 'Sowerss' if that means anything to you guys. Haven't played one of these things in a while . . .

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t3000)
MP3 (t3000)
CO (t2990)
Button (t3000)
SB (t3010)
BB (t3000)
UTG (t3000)
UTG+1 (t3000)
Hero (t3000)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t20, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t20, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t80) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t55</font>, Button calls t55, SB calls t55, BB folds.

Turn: (t245) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t120</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t460</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t1300</font>, SB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1285

[shaundeeb]

good fold I suck and can't usually make it.

[adanthar]

good fold against an unknown

if it's the sowers from FTP, he has 64

[Beachman42]

Heroic fold - but how often should 6-4 just flat call here? SB could be on the fd &amp; hero's hand screams set, but is it more +CEV to play this hand small to the river looking to get another caller &amp; another bet in on a safe river? If a spade or board pairing card falls, 6-4 is easy to fold. I guess I don't see very many donk calls this early this deep. Villian got T800 with 2 reasonable folds, but maybe he does better flat calling this early. Almost certainly, SB will come along. Please flame away at this line, but I'm not sure its FPS on the second hand of the MTT . . .

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good fold I suck and can't usually make it.

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[FakeKramer]

You guys don't think he has two pair here often enough to justify that + FH redraw even if he does have straight makes this a shove?

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You guys don't think he has two pair here often enough to justify that + FH redraw even if he does have straight makes this a shove?

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If it was bet/raise, maybe... but the fact that it was bet/raise/reraise leans me toward no.

edit: That said, timing would have been a HUGE tell here. If the turn 3-bet was made quickly, there's basically zero way we're ahead. Two-pairs would take a few seconds to evaluate that board to see what hands make straights, etc.

[yabastid]

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You guys don't think he has two pair here often enough to justify that + FH redraw even if he does have straight makes this a shove?

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If it was bet/raise, maybe... but the fact that it was bet/raise/reraise leans me toward no.

edit: That said, timing would have been a HUGE tell here. If the turn 3-bet was made quickly, there's basically zero way we're ahead. Two-pairs would take a few seconds to evaluate that board to see what hands make straights, etc.

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As I remember it was pretty close to a turbo raise . . .

[Pudge714]

Do we fold 33 here? 55? 77?

[Eagles]

This hand shows why raise pf&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; limp pf