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Old 08-31-2007, 05:26 AM
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Lets say you're in a 3-way pot with 5678, and flop comes down 66T.. you bet pot from early pos, and is faced with looks like a semi protective value raise.. Is this a general instafold?
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Old 08-31-2007, 05:35 AM
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Why would you bet this in early position after the flop? If your opponent doesnt have t6xx or ttxx you have 13 outs against all other 6xxx hands. TTxx probably wont do a raise on this flop, and t6 is an unlikely holding but possible in an AAt6. If the raiser has any trip 6 other than a6xx you have fold equity in addition to 13 outs for a flop reraise.
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:02 AM
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Why would you bet this in early position after the flop? If your opponent doesnt have t6xx or ttxx you have 13 outs against all other 6xxx hands. TTxx probably wont do a raise on this flop, and t6 is an unlikely holding but possible in an AAt6. If the raiser has any trip 6 other than a6xx you have fold equity in addition to 13 outs for a flop reraise.

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well, not betting kinda leaves you in the dark if someone else bet.. and it's not really preferably to wander the dark with this hand, is it? but you're have a point about someone's "unlikely" to hold 6T since it's such a wide gap, but.. 679T, 678T, 689T, and even TJQ6-ish hands are all very possible holdings since ppl in general don't mind playing 3 cards working together with a dangle 6...
but, let's make things a little different.. let's say we're holding 678K and get a free play fromm BB.. now what? what's our line and what to do? what if we bet, and are raised again? do we call, possibly drawing dead to 3 outs? do we check/call? check/fold?
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Old 08-31-2007, 01:42 PM
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My point was more, why would someone be overprotective with flopped t6, especially with qjt6 type holdings? Given the villian has position on you he wouldnt be nearly as scared of K or A.

In an unraised pot, if hero bets from BB I would instafold to a raise because t6xx is more likely to play quickly in a pot that has not been raised, and its much harder to know our bad cards in an unraised pot.
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:53 PM
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Lets say you're in a 3-way pot with 5678, and flop comes down 66T.. you bet pot from early pos, and is faced with looks like a semi protective value raise.. Is this a general instafold?

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Yep, pretty easy fold if you know your opponent doesn't get out of line. You bet the flop and got raised, you know where you are in the hand now. He has better than a 6 with an 8 kicker.
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Old 08-31-2007, 04:48 PM
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I think it's standard to bet, and standard to fold to a raise.

really your bet is almost a bluff, it's just that not many cards are left in the deck for people to call/raise with, so it will work often.
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