open-raising with ace-little suited (sorry for preflop question)...

[neurotiq]

On a table with no reads, what's the earliest position where you start open-raising with ace-little suited (say, A6s and smaller)?

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[Aaron W.]

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On a table with no reads, what's the earliest position where you start open-raising with ace-little suited (say, A6s and smaller)?

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Here's how I play it:

Definitely raise from the button.
Almost always raise from CO
Sometimes raise from HJ
Rarely raise before

[Xylocain]

Button and SB but I'm not very good at stealing.

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On a table with no reads, what's the earliest position where you start open-raising with ace-little suited (say, A6s and smaller)?

Thanks in advance. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Here's how I play it:

Definitely raise from the button.
Almost always raise from CO
Sometimes raise from HJ
Rarely raise before

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[CSguy]

I'm actually more inclined to raise this earlier rather than later. It sounds crazy, but you do get some Ax's bigger than yours to fold, which is nice.

And I always use this reasoning: "When I raise here, everyone is going to think I have an ace. Then when I bet the A on the flop/turn/etc, and get a raise, I know the raiser has an ace beat and can fold with more certainty."

I'm not sure what the correct play really is though. It's probably marginal.

- Jason

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I'm actually more inclined to raise this earlier rather than later. It sounds crazy, but you do get some Ax's bigger than yours to fold, which is nice.

And I always use this reasoning: "When I raise here, everyone is going to think I have an ace. Then when I bet the A on the flop/turn/etc, and get a raise, I know the raiser has an ace beat and can fold with more certainty."

I'm not sure what the correct play really is though. It's probably marginal.

- Jason

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i would rather raise 98s utg than a weak ace

[RemyXO]

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I'm actually more inclined to raise this earlier rather than later. It sounds crazy, but you do get some Ax's bigger than yours to fold, which is nice.

And I always use this reasoning: "When I raise here, everyone is going to think I have an ace. Then when I bet the A on the flop/turn/etc, and get a raise, I know the raiser has an ace beat and can fold with more certainty."

I'm not sure what the correct play really is though. It's probably marginal.

- Jason

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i would rather raise 98s utg than a weak ace

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... and if it's a No Limit game [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I'm actually more inclined to raise this earlier rather than later. It sounds crazy, but you do get some Ax's bigger than yours to fold, which is nice.

And I always use this reasoning: "When I raise here, everyone is going to think I have an ace. Then when I bet the A on the flop/turn/etc, and get a raise, I know the raiser has an ace beat and can fold with more certainty."

I'm not sure what the correct play really is though. It's probably marginal.

- Jason

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i would rather raise 98s utg than a weak ace

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... and if it's a No Limit game [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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i've played about 1000 hands of no limit ... luckboxed a straightflush ... and have no idea how to get fancy in that game (I found it really boring too)

[bravos1]

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I'm actually more inclined to raise this earlier rather than later. It sounds crazy, but you do get some Ax's bigger than yours to fold, which is nice.

And I always use this reasoning: "When I raise here, everyone is going to think I have an ace. Then when I bet the A on the flop/turn/etc, and get a raise, I know the raiser has an ace beat and can fold with more certainty."

I'm not sure what the correct play really is though. It's probably marginal.

- Jason

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This is a good way to lose many many bets.

Neurotiq,

I'm opening this from the HJ or later. Aaron's post is pretty good. I'll also add that if folded to me in SB or if SB completes and I have this in BB, I also raise.

There are times where I will 3bet it against a SB steal as well when in the BB, but good post flop play becomes far more important obviously.

[Xhad]

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I'm actually more inclined to raise this earlier rather than later. It sounds crazy, but you do get some Ax's bigger than yours to fold, which is nice.

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Problem with this is you have 9 people to push through at a full table and the chances that no one has a hand worth fighting you is slim. As someone else said 98s probably has a better chance if called and you really don't want to be called unless you're getting coldcalled by most of the table.

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And I always use this reasoning: "When I raise here, everyone is going to think I have an ace. Then when I bet the A on the flop/turn/etc, and get a raise, I know the raiser has an ace beat and can fold with more certainty."

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