AA, KK VS 5-6 Suited

[Hyperrrprank]

I take offense to that! I never raise 56s!

limp/reraise on the other hand... All day long.

[HollywoodDB]

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AA/KK are the 2 most profitable hands in hold em vs 1 or 9 opponents. the end.

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[jstill]

wow u must be terrible at poker OP

only fish say what u just said... also playing J6o and T8o and cold calling SCs esp in limit is terrible poker unless it was under very specific circumstances/ table conditions, which Im guessing you're not strictly adhering to or discerning appropriately.

[plocp]

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Maybe the big pair hands seem less profitable to the OP cause one tends to get tied to pots with big pair hands and a hand like 56s is easy to dump if the flop misses you. Where with AA, you are coming in raising, and 3 betting etc, with 56s your limping in most cases(unless your'e Hyperrrprank). On a bad flop you are probably going to stay in longer with AA than you would with 56s obviously so it stands that you have way more $ invested pre amd post flop. To be able to hang in this game you have to able to know when your pair is no good and also when to push it and Babartown it. I'd take the big pairs all day if I could but I fold for hours on end lately.

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well, let me list some of the sick part of big pair in SSL
1. they seldom come, some one wait all night long for these pairs and lost to two random, what can i say
2. so obvious, if you have big pair, its so obvious to your op because you have to protect your hand every street, can't slow play at all, so when you have this, your op will know at once.
3. can't protect your hand in ssl, to call you only another 5 dollar, people with any bottom pair will call you all day long. not to mention other big draw out there.
4. been play live poker in limit and NL for couple year, for my experience, the most profitable way for AA is some other player also hit their big pair like KK, so they raise and reraise all in with you flop or preflop, other than this, i only see a lot of AA and KK get crack all day long.

what i mention above is base on my live casino experience for couple years, i know the book tell you the AA and KK is the most profitable, well, you know the student in school never understand how interesting the real world is.

[KitCloudkicker]

for anyone who thinks that the B&M games will one day become harder due to the public educating themselves about poker - this thread is exhibit A that it will never happen.

[Frond]

Sounds like someone is only raising big pairs and not various other hands. If you are "only" raising big pairs then that's giving way too much info don't you think OP?

LEVELING?

[Hyperrrprank]

I'm split between trying to educate the OP here or just asking him to come play in my home game.

[Louis88]

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I'm split between trying to educate the OP here or paying his way to come play in my home game.

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[plocp]

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Maybe the big pair hands seem less profitable to the OP cause one tends to get tied to pots with big pair hands and a hand like 56s is easy to dump if the flop misses you. Where with AA, you are coming in raising, and 3 betting etc, with 56s your limping in most cases(unless your'e Hyperrrprank). On a bad flop you are probably going to stay in longer with AA than you would with 56s obviously so it stands that you have way more $ invested pre amd post flop. To be able to hang in this game you have to able to know when your pair is no good and also when to push it and Babartown it. I'd take the big pairs all day if I could but I fold for hours on end lately.

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well, let me list some of the sick part of big pair in SSL
1. they seldom come, some one wait all night long for these pairs and lost to two random, what can i say
2. so obvious, if you have big pair, its so obvious to your op because you have to protect your hand every street, can't slow play at all, so when you have this, your op will know at once.
3. can't protect your hand in ssl, to call you only another 5 dollar, people with any bottom pair will call you all day long. not to mention other big draw out there.
4. been play live poker in limit and NL for couple year, for my experience, the most profitable way for AA is some other player also hit their big pair like KK, so they raise and reraise all in with you flop or preflop, other than this, i only see a lot of AA and KK get crack all day long.

what i mention above is base on my live casino experience for couple years, i know the book tell you the AA and KK is the most profitable, well, you know the student in school never understand how interesting the real world is.

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big pot never won by less than two pair, what's good for one big pair has two out,i really don't know, AA,KK is the best hand pre flop, can't deny it, but after 6-8 player seeing the flop, and call your raise post flop, don't know how good it is any more, i don't know how capable you guys fold your AA, KK face strength especially most the time you are pot committed.